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Google stopped being innovative the second their "20% Time" got gutted: > Employees were encouraged to spend up to twenty-percent of their paid work time pursu

Google stopped being innovative the second their "20% Time" got gutted: > Employees were encouraged to spend up to twenty-percent of their paid work time pursuing personal projects. The objective of the program was to inspire innovation in participating employees and ultimately increase company potential. For Google's part, Gmail and AdSense both arose out of side projects. In 2013, Google discontinued 20 percent time. What has Google released since 2013[0]? Stadia? Then you tack on that Google Search as of today is basically unusable/broken with people needing to append site:, double-quoting everything, or enabling verbatim search to get high quality results. Heck, on top of that, I also have a uBlock configuration that removes 280 domains from Google Results because they're all auto-generated spam of Stackoverflow answers. There is something deeply wrong with the culture inside Google. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#2012_onward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google#2012_onward

s-xyz 4y ago
“What has Google released since 2013[0]? Stadia?” - GCP Suite (a full integrated and consistent suit, answering so many things) - Google Workspace (trust me when you get to know everything that is possible you will be amazed) - Tensorflow and other Machine Learning applications
- Someone1234 4y ago
  Google Workspaces originally released in 2006 (inc. Sheets, Docs, Drive was 2012, Calendar was 2009, etc), it was rebranded "G Suite" in 2016 then rebranded "Google Workspaces" in 2020. Rebranding an existing product isn't innovation. Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS, is that innovative? Redmond-style photocopying? I'll give you TensorFlow, but we're talking about that being their death knell, so congratulations about signing their own death-warrant?
  - vrosas 4y ago
    > Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS This certainly hasn’t been my experience. I’ve found GCP products to be much better/easier to deal with than their AWS counterparts.
    - netheril96 4y ago
      Worse in the aspect of market dominance.
    - DangitBobby 4y ago
      Agreed. I can actually just figure out how to do simple things in GCP console by clicking around the UI, including setting up networks, doing IAM, and getting stuff talking to each other, most of it without ever leaving the web browser or even peeking at documentation. Good luck doing that with AWS.
  - iamgopal 4y ago
    GCP is definitely much better if not best cloud offering.
    - pkulak 4y ago
      But it’s not innovative.
      - rippercushions 4y ago
        Kubernetes, BigQuery, Tensorflow, custom VM shapes etc would beg to disagree.
      - sofixa 4y ago
        It was when it came out in the form of App Engine. It was when it released managed Kubernetes and then managed containers within Kubernetes (Cloud Run using Knative behind the scenes).
  - nerpderp82 4y ago
    PyTorch has 3-5x the use of TensorFlow in academia.
- no_carrier 4y ago
  Also: - Kubernetes has been incredibly transformative and adopted by all other cloud providers - Golang - the language of choice for a lot of cloud native tools - Flutter - it may not be the incumbent choice but it makes cross platform development a breeze - Google Photos - no other photo platform comes close to it
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    Perhaps the original author should have specified profit generating products. Go, Kubernetes, Tensorflow are all open source and free. Google Photos makes a profit?
  - nr2x 4y ago
    Apple photos now offers full user controlled encryption. Google Photos has no such protections and never will. Apple may not be saints, but the fact is there’s one photo service where the photos remain yours, and another where a photo of your kid can get your entire digital life nuked with zero recourse.
  - tigershark 4y ago
    Go is from 2009, so well before 2013. Google photos was launched 4 years after Apple photos on iCloud, so I wouldn’t call it innovative.
- goldfeld 4y ago
  That just expands on the parent's point. Let us divide the number of teams Google has globally by the three fronts you mention.
tylerhou 4y ago
20% being discontinued is not really accurate.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  They added so much red tape and bureaucracy to it that it is a distinction without a difference. Innovation went from a stream to a trickle after 2013. It went from "spend 20% on whatever project you find interesting!" to "spend UP TO 20% on a project your manager approves of and can defend from their manager, with routine reporting on the status, direction, and potential outcomes." Employees went from wanting to work at Google for the "20% Time" to not using it because it was a huge hassle that could risk their career advancement, if your 20% time project didn't pan out. It went from a perk to a gamble almost overnight. The result in the same either way though: Google stopped innovating.
  - fblp 4y ago
    thank you for sharing that context!
binkHN 4y ago
Stadia was amazing—sad it ended.
registeredcorn 4y ago
>I also have a uBlock configuration that removes 280 domains from Google Results because they're all auto-generated spam of Stackoverflow answers. Can you describe exactly what you mean? If there is a way to hide specific domains from showing in search results, it would be an incredible boon for me.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  That's exactly what it is. See this repo: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter In particular look in the dist folder, find your search engine(s) of choice, and then get the blocklist you'd like. Paste into "MyFilters" in uBlock. Bonus: Here's one that entirely blocks Youtube Shorts in your Subscriptions feed: www.youtube.com##ytd-grid-video-renderer:has(#thumbnail[href*=shorts])
  - graphe 4y ago
    Thank you. Will this die with v3 manifest in Chrome? I used a plugin to disable some google results but this is amazing!
tonightstoast 4y ago
Wait is the uBlock domain list shareable? I would love to add that to my config as well.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  There's a github repo, it contains other blocklists too: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter In particular look at: dist/google/ and stackoverflow_copycats.txt
Euphorbium 4y ago
Alphafold. They should pivot to biomedical company.

s-xyz 4y ago

“What has Google released since 2013[0]? Stadia?” - GCP Suite (a full integrated and consistent suit, answering so many things) - Google Workspace (trust me when you get to know everything that is possible you will be amazed) - Tensorflow and other Machine Learning applications

Someone1234 4y ago
Google Workspaces originally released in 2006 (inc. Sheets, Docs, Drive was 2012, Calendar was 2009, etc), it was rebranded "G Suite" in 2016 then rebranded "Google Workspaces" in 2020. Rebranding an existing product isn't innovation. Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS, is that innovative? Redmond-style photocopying? I'll give you TensorFlow, but we're talking about that being their death knell, so congratulations about signing their own death-warrant?
- vrosas 4y ago
  > Google Cloud is a worse clone of AWS This certainly hasn’t been my experience. I’ve found GCP products to be much better/easier to deal with than their AWS counterparts.
  - netheril96 4y ago
    Worse in the aspect of market dominance.
  - DangitBobby 4y ago
    Agreed. I can actually just figure out how to do simple things in GCP console by clicking around the UI, including setting up networks, doing IAM, and getting stuff talking to each other, most of it without ever leaving the web browser or even peeking at documentation. Good luck doing that with AWS.
- iamgopal 4y ago
  GCP is definitely much better if not best cloud offering.
  - pkulak 4y ago
    But it’s not innovative.
    - rippercushions 4y ago
      Kubernetes, BigQuery, Tensorflow, custom VM shapes etc would beg to disagree.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      It was when it came out in the form of App Engine. It was when it released managed Kubernetes and then managed containers within Kubernetes (Cloud Run using Knative behind the scenes).
- nerpderp82 4y ago
  PyTorch has 3-5x the use of TensorFlow in academia.
no_carrier 4y ago
Also: - Kubernetes has been incredibly transformative and adopted by all other cloud providers - Golang - the language of choice for a lot of cloud native tools - Flutter - it may not be the incumbent choice but it makes cross platform development a breeze - Google Photos - no other photo platform comes close to it
- senttoschool 4y ago
  Perhaps the original author should have specified profit generating products. Go, Kubernetes, Tensorflow are all open source and free. Google Photos makes a profit?
- nr2x 4y ago
  Apple photos now offers full user controlled encryption. Google Photos has no such protections and never will. Apple may not be saints, but the fact is there’s one photo service where the photos remain yours, and another where a photo of your kid can get your entire digital life nuked with zero recourse.
- tigershark 4y ago
  Go is from 2009, so well before 2013. Google photos was launched 4 years after Apple photos on iCloud, so I wouldn’t call it innovative.
goldfeld 4y ago
That just expands on the parent's point. Let us divide the number of teams Google has globally by the three fronts you mention.

tylerhou 4y ago

20% being discontinued is not really accurate.

Someone1234 4y ago
They added so much red tape and bureaucracy to it that it is a distinction without a difference. Innovation went from a stream to a trickle after 2013. It went from "spend 20% on whatever project you find interesting!" to "spend UP TO 20% on a project your manager approves of and can defend from their manager, with routine reporting on the status, direction, and potential outcomes." Employees went from wanting to work at Google for the "20% Time" to not using it because it was a huge hassle that could risk their career advancement, if your 20% time project didn't pan out. It went from a perk to a gamble almost overnight. The result in the same either way though: Google stopped innovating.
- fblp 4y ago
  thank you for sharing that context!

binkHN 4y ago

Stadia was amazing—sad it ended.

registeredcorn 4y ago

>I also have a uBlock configuration that removes 280 domains from Google Results because they're all auto-generated spam of Stackoverflow answers. Can you describe exactly what you mean? If there is a way to hide specific domains from showing in search results, it would be an incredible boon for me.

Someone1234 4y ago
That's exactly what it is. See this repo: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter In particular look in the dist folder, find your search engine(s) of choice, and then get the blocklist you'd like. Paste into "MyFilters" in uBlock. Bonus: Here's one that entirely blocks Youtube Shorts in your Subscriptions feed: www.youtube.com##ytd-grid-video-renderer:has(#thumbnail[href*=shorts])
- graphe 4y ago
  Thank you. Will this die with v3 manifest in Chrome? I used a plugin to disable some google results but this is amazing!

tonightstoast 4y ago

Wait is the uBlock domain list shareable? I would love to add that to my config as well.

Someone1234 4y ago
There's a github repo, it contains other blocklists too: https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter In particular look at: dist/google/ and stackoverflow_copycats.txt

Euphorbium 4y ago

Alphafold. They should pivot to biomedical company.