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What year are you talking about?

topspin 4y ago
All of them, I guess. "Twitter back online after suffering longest global outage in years" (2022, before Musk fired everyone.) https://nypost.com/2022/07/14/twitter-down-as-social-media-giant-experiences-global-outage/ https://nypost.com/2022/07/14/twitter-down-as-social-media-g... "Twitter’s massive outage may be over, company says ‘no evidence’ of hack" (2020) https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/15/21518367/twitter-down-outage-tweets https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/15/21518367/twitter-down-ou... "Twitter Suffers Widespread Hour-Long Outage on Mobile Apps, Web" (2019) https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/twitter-suffers-worldwide-mobile-apps-web-1203265100/ https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/twitter-suffers-worldw... "Twitter is down again for some" (2018) https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/20/twitter-is-down-again-for-some/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/20/twitter-is-down-again-for-... "Twitter is down for some users" (2017) https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/twitter-is-down-for-some-users/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/twitter-is-down-for-some-u... Partial or total failures of Twitter isn't some new phenomena.
- danShumway 4y ago
  It's February though, and we've seen at least two outages in the past 3 months, and arguably a lot more generally buggy instances where specific features have been broken (very often without postmortems or any kind of acknowledgement). I don't think people are surprised to see a website go down; they're surprised to see a website go down often enough that it no longer seems like a particularly noteworthy event. I opened this thread to see what people were saying about the policy change and instead saw people complaining about a service outage, and my response was not, "huh, what on earth is going on at Twitter?" It was, "eh, seems about right." Twitter always struggled with outages, but they shouldn't be the expected result whenever new features/changes are launched.
  - philliphaydon 4y ago
    In the past 3 months there’s been no outage? And I use Twitter every day.
    - icehawk 4y ago
      There was just one in December: https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/28/twitter-down-outage/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/28/twitter-down-outage/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/28/technology/twitter-outages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/28/technology/twitter-outage...
      - danShumway 4y ago
        Yep, and the event today certainly counts as an outage. I'm being charitable and only counting today's outage and December's (so two), but there's a strong case to be made that I should also be counting things like: - Spaces going down - 2FA breaking for a nontrivial number of users and (as far as I know) never getting fixed It's silly for anyone to claim that Twitter hasn't been less stable over the past few months than it usually is. ---- What makes an "outage" harder to define now is that Twitter basically gives no statements about them and no postmortems. There hasn't been any acknowledgement from Twitter about pretty much anything stability-wise since Musk took over. Which is another way that Twitter today is tangibly different from how it used to operate, but:shrug: The end result is that "outages" end up being a lot more blurry, and we get conflicting reports from Musk and from other workers about what happened, if we get reports at all. A system breaks and stops working randomly? Twitter's head of safety says it's temporarily down as part of a planned migration. Musk lies and says it never went down at all. Either way, you're not getting a record you can look up later on an uptime page. But the site does seem to be struggling more often than it used to.
      - philliphaydon 4y ago
        Service disruption for a few countries now constitutes an outage?
        jwestbury 4y ago
        Uh, yes. That's pretty much an outage by definition. Everywhere I have ever worked (and to be clear, that list includes AWS, Dropbox, and Microsoft -- not tiny startups -- amongst others) would consider that to be an outage.
  - rsynnott 4y ago
    I would argue more than two. 2FA was broken globally for a bit, AIUI, and in some geographies is still broken. That’s effectively an outage for 2fa users. There’s also a lot of general flakiness which you wouldn’t call and outage, but are very much a return to the Failwhale Era.
- nunobrito 4y ago
  Didn't even noticed. Using Nostr network since a good while now.

All of them, I guess. "Twitter back online after suffering longest global outage in years" (2022, before Musk fired everyone.) https://nypost.com/2022/07/14/twitter-down-as-social-media-giant-experiences-global-outage/ https://nypost.com/2022/07/14/twitter-down-as-social-media-g... "Twitter’s massive outage may be over, company says ‘no evidence’ of hack" (2020) https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/15/21518367/twitter-down-outage-tweets https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/15/21518367/twitter-down-ou... "Twitter Suffers Widespread Hour-Long Outage on Mobile Apps, Web" (2019) https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/twitter-suffers-worldwide-mobile-apps-web-1203265100/ https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/twitter-suffers-worldw... "Twitter is down again for some" (2018) https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/20/twitter-is-down-again-for-some/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/20/twitter-is-down-again-for-... "Twitter is down for some users" (2017) https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/twitter-is-down-for-some-users/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/19/twitter-is-down-for-some-u... Partial or total failures of Twitter isn't some new phenomena.

danShumway 4y ago
It's February though, and we've seen at least two outages in the past 3 months, and arguably a lot more generally buggy instances where specific features have been broken (very often without postmortems or any kind of acknowledgement). I don't think people are surprised to see a website go down; they're surprised to see a website go down often enough that it no longer seems like a particularly noteworthy event. I opened this thread to see what people were saying about the policy change and instead saw people complaining about a service outage, and my response was not, "huh, what on earth is going on at Twitter?" It was, "eh, seems about right." Twitter always struggled with outages, but they shouldn't be the expected result whenever new features/changes are launched.
- philliphaydon 4y ago
  In the past 3 months there’s been no outage? And I use Twitter every day.
  - icehawk 4y ago
    There was just one in December: https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/28/twitter-down-outage/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/28/twitter-down-outage/ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/28/technology/twitter-outages.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/28/technology/twitter-outage...
    - danShumway 4y ago
      Yep, and the event today certainly counts as an outage. I'm being charitable and only counting today's outage and December's (so two), but there's a strong case to be made that I should also be counting things like: - Spaces going down - 2FA breaking for a nontrivial number of users and (as far as I know) never getting fixed It's silly for anyone to claim that Twitter hasn't been less stable over the past few months than it usually is. ---- What makes an "outage" harder to define now is that Twitter basically gives no statements about them and no postmortems. There hasn't been any acknowledgement from Twitter about pretty much anything stability-wise since Musk took over. Which is another way that Twitter today is tangibly different from how it used to operate, but:shrug: The end result is that "outages" end up being a lot more blurry, and we get conflicting reports from Musk and from other workers about what happened, if we get reports at all. A system breaks and stops working randomly? Twitter's head of safety says it's temporarily down as part of a planned migration. Musk lies and says it never went down at all. Either way, you're not getting a record you can look up later on an uptime page. But the site does seem to be struggling more often than it used to.
    - philliphaydon 4y ago
      Service disruption for a few countries now constitutes an outage?
      - jwestbury 4y ago
        Uh, yes. That's pretty much an outage by definition. Everywhere I have ever worked (and to be clear, that list includes AWS, Dropbox, and Microsoft -- not tiny startups -- amongst others) would consider that to be an outage.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  I would argue more than two. 2FA was broken globally for a bit, AIUI, and in some geographies is still broken. That’s effectively an outage for 2fa users. There’s also a lot of general flakiness which you wouldn’t call and outage, but are very much a return to the Failwhale Era.
nunobrito 4y ago
Didn't even noticed. Using Nostr network since a good while now.