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If I painted it as a political agenda someone else would complain. They are personally affected because they are trans. That seemed the most honest way to phras

by knolan 4y ago

If I painted it as a political agenda someone else would complain. They are personally affected because they are trans. That seemed the most honest way to phrase it.

chungy 4y ago
It's still political. It's extremely unlikely the mod in question and JK Rowling have ever met, which makes it impossible to be personal.
- knolan 4y ago
  Personal as in their private life or identity is affected, not interpersonal as in a relationship between two or more people or groups. Political would relate to government policies, or how a country is run. I’m flabbergasted that I need to explain this.
  - chungy 4y ago
    That's just plainly false. Their private life was not affected by what JK Rowling has said. Rather, their political opinion differs and a choice to be offended was made. As political protest, the mod decides the best course of action was to violate subreddit rules and spoil a game for people (instead of, you know, offering a counter position to Rowling's views).
    - knolan 4y ago
      You keep claiming it’s political when it isn’t. The mod feels personally that JKR is bad and lashes out on a website to hurt other people. They aren’t protesting the legal status of trans people. They aren’t demanding changes to health care policy. They are saying some rich celebrity is bad and fuck you if you enjoy that person’s creation. It’s all about personal feelings and has nothing to do with politics. What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics? Does she hold office or set policy? Unless you’re loosely defining politics as an umbrella term for personal beliefs which makes your initial response moot.
      - lmm 4y ago
        > What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics? Does she hold office or set policy? Her "crusade" is about who can make decisions in society, i.e. control what others do, which is what politics is. Formal political structures are not the only venue through which it happens.
      - ilyt 4y ago
        > What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics Is she on some kind of crusade I'm unaware of ? All I've heard from the ones complaining was not a single quote or anything actionable, and all I've seen from sources trying to just report on the situation was some spicy tweets that summed up to "biological women are not the same as trans women" and "I will wipe my tears with my royalty money" response to the twitter abuse.
      - yellowapple 4y ago
        > Does she hold office or set policy? Does she influence those who do?
commandlinefan 4y ago
> personally affected because they are trans That's something I find surprising about reddit - I can't remember what the exact percentage is, but I think it's something like 0.1% of the world population is trans... but it seems like 90% of the moderators on reddit are. What is it about reddit that attracts them?
- Toutouxc 4y ago
  I have similar questions about the apparent over-representation of LGBT people among high-profile software developers, but it feels like it's never okay to ask those questions.
  - Natsu 4y ago
    I've heard some theorize that there's a link with ADHD, but I don't claim to know for sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5v6wlq/adderall_and_gender_dysphoria/ https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5v6wlq/adde...
  - baby 4y ago
    My own explanation is that to be good at computer science you need to have had spent a lot of time in front of a computer during your childhood. The LGBT community used to be much less (and still is in most places) accepted IRL, and as such you'd have to find your community online. So here you have it, that's my theory, a lot of LGBTs spent a lot of time online and then got hooked on computer science stuff.
  - nostromo 4y ago
    Part of it is Alphabet Tourism. I'm gay and many of my legit LGBT friends have noticed a trend where lots of younger folks are claiming to be queer, bi, non-binary, asexual, pansexual, trans, etc., without a lot of evidence that they're anything other than a straight person looking to feel special.
    - fleddr 4y ago
      Same thing on Mastodon, which I tried for a month or so. It seems every single profile you open some of the claims you mention are there, followed by disabled, and a bunch of (self-diagnosed?) mental illnesses. It's like they're collecting pokemons. And it's not used as a list of characteristics, it's their "identity" and an accomplishment. It is center to every single thing they say, whom they associate with, etc.

by knolan 4y ago

If I painted it as a political agenda someone else would complain. They are personally affected because they are trans. That seemed the most honest way to phrase it.

chungy 4y ago

It's still political. It's extremely unlikely the mod in question and JK Rowling have ever met, which makes it impossible to be personal.

knolan 4y ago
Personal as in their private life or identity is affected, not interpersonal as in a relationship between two or more people or groups. Political would relate to government policies, or how a country is run. I’m flabbergasted that I need to explain this.
- chungy 4y ago
  That's just plainly false. Their private life was not affected by what JK Rowling has said. Rather, their political opinion differs and a choice to be offended was made. As political protest, the mod decides the best course of action was to violate subreddit rules and spoil a game for people (instead of, you know, offering a counter position to Rowling's views).
  - knolan 4y ago
    You keep claiming it’s political when it isn’t. The mod feels personally that JKR is bad and lashes out on a website to hurt other people. They aren’t protesting the legal status of trans people. They aren’t demanding changes to health care policy. They are saying some rich celebrity is bad and fuck you if you enjoy that person’s creation. It’s all about personal feelings and has nothing to do with politics. What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics? Does she hold office or set policy? Unless you’re loosely defining politics as an umbrella term for personal beliefs which makes your initial response moot.
    - lmm 4y ago
      > What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics? Does she hold office or set policy? Her "crusade" is about who can make decisions in society, i.e. control what others do, which is what politics is. Formal political structures are not the only venue through which it happens.
    - ilyt 4y ago
      > What role does JKRs crusade against the trans community have to do with politics Is she on some kind of crusade I'm unaware of ? All I've heard from the ones complaining was not a single quote or anything actionable, and all I've seen from sources trying to just report on the situation was some spicy tweets that summed up to "biological women are not the same as trans women" and "I will wipe my tears with my royalty money" response to the twitter abuse.
    - yellowapple 4y ago
      > Does she hold office or set policy? Does she influence those who do?

commandlinefan 4y ago

> personally affected because they are trans That's something I find surprising about reddit - I can't remember what the exact percentage is, but I think it's something like 0.1% of the world population is trans... but it seems like 90% of the moderators on reddit are. What is it about reddit that attracts them?

Toutouxc 4y ago
I have similar questions about the apparent over-representation of LGBT people among high-profile software developers, but it feels like it's never okay to ask those questions.
- Natsu 4y ago
  I've heard some theorize that there's a link with ADHD, but I don't claim to know for sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5v6wlq/adderall_and_gender_dysphoria/ https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/5v6wlq/adde...
- baby 4y ago
  My own explanation is that to be good at computer science you need to have had spent a lot of time in front of a computer during your childhood. The LGBT community used to be much less (and still is in most places) accepted IRL, and as such you'd have to find your community online. So here you have it, that's my theory, a lot of LGBTs spent a lot of time online and then got hooked on computer science stuff.
- nostromo 4y ago
  Part of it is Alphabet Tourism. I'm gay and many of my legit LGBT friends have noticed a trend where lots of younger folks are claiming to be queer, bi, non-binary, asexual, pansexual, trans, etc., without a lot of evidence that they're anything other than a straight person looking to feel special.
  - fleddr 4y ago
    Same thing on Mastodon, which I tried for a month or so. It seems every single profile you open some of the claims you mention are there, followed by disabled, and a bunch of (self-diagnosed?) mental illnesses. It's like they're collecting pokemons. And it's not used as a list of characteristics, it's their "identity" and an accomplishment. It is center to every single thing they say, whom they associate with, etc.