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How does the TOS make it not FOSS?

rcthompson 4y ago
Did you read the thread? It's explained pretty clearly.
tremon 4y ago
Because Freedom #0 says "you may use this software for any purpose". Including terms of service to curb that freedom makes it non-Free.
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NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
This is an excellent question. Which part of the 3-clause BSD license that the author selected is inconsistent with the "TOS" that the app shows? Or is the 3-clause BSD not a FOSS license?
- cuu508 4y ago
  If you add your own extra restrictions to the 3-clause BSD license then it is not the 3-clause BSD license any more.
weberer 4y ago
>A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: >The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). >The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. >The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). >The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html By adding a ToS, you remove Freedom 0.
- rat9988 4y ago
  How do this ToS contradict Freedom 0?
  - rhn_mk1 4y ago
    It's not clear how, because it's not clear what e.g. "acceptable" means.
  - idle_zealot 4y ago
    It forbids the user from using the software in illegal or unauthorized manners, whatever that means.
    - rat9988 4y ago
      Would such a user care and feel bound by a TOS?
      - Macha 4y ago
        May as well just throw pirated commercial software into f-droid too, since if you don't care about the license terms then it's just as open, right?
  - weberer 4y ago
    >FOR ANY PURPOSE The ToS says you can't use it for certain purposes. It's pretty cut and dry.
- SAI_Peregrinus 4y ago
  It's not FOSS in the distributed form. But with a FOSS license on the source, anyone can build from source and run without caring about the TOS. So the source code is almost FOSS, and can be legally turned into FOSS by an end user.
p1necone 4y ago
I don't know about clearly not FOSS, but it clearly makes it not licensed under the BSD license that the software claims to be licensed under. Doesn't matter if extra terms are added in the license document itself or in a popup in the software, they're an amendment all the same.
danjoredd 4y ago
Open source is not the same thing as FOSS. If you have too restrictive of a license then it is not free as in freedom. Only free as in free beer.

Did you read the thread? It's explained pretty clearly.

Because Freedom #0 says "you may use this software for any purpose". Including terms of service to curb that freedom makes it non-Free.

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NovemberWhiskey 4y ago

This is an excellent question. Which part of the 3-clause BSD license that the author selected is inconsistent with the "TOS" that the app shows? Or is the 3-clause BSD not a FOSS license?

cuu508 4y ago
If you add your own extra restrictions to the 3-clause BSD license then it is not the 3-clause BSD license any more.

weberer 4y ago

>A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential freedoms: >The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). >The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. >The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). >The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html By adding a ToS, you remove Freedom 0.

rat9988 4y ago
How do this ToS contradict Freedom 0?
- rhn_mk1 4y ago
  It's not clear how, because it's not clear what e.g. "acceptable" means.
- idle_zealot 4y ago
  It forbids the user from using the software in illegal or unauthorized manners, whatever that means.
  - rat9988 4y ago
    Would such a user care and feel bound by a TOS?
    - Macha 4y ago
      May as well just throw pirated commercial software into f-droid too, since if you don't care about the license terms then it's just as open, right?
- weberer 4y ago
  >FOR ANY PURPOSE The ToS says you can't use it for certain purposes. It's pretty cut and dry.
SAI_Peregrinus 4y ago
It's not FOSS in the distributed form. But with a FOSS license on the source, anyone can build from source and run without caring about the TOS. So the source code is almost FOSS, and can be legally turned into FOSS by an end user.

p1necone 4y ago

I don't know about clearly not FOSS, but it clearly makes it not licensed under the BSD license that the software claims to be licensed under. Doesn't matter if extra terms are added in the license document itself or in a popup in the software, they're an amendment all the same.

danjoredd 4y ago

Open source is not the same thing as FOSS. If you have too restrictive of a license then it is not free as in freedom. Only free as in free beer.