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"Using Wireshark to check what a freshly-installed copy of Windows 11 was doing on a brand-new laptop, what they saw was eye-opening to say the least: just afte
by jimbobimbo 4y ago
"Using Wireshark to check what a freshly-installed copy of Windows 11 was doing on a brand-new laptop, what they saw was eye-opening to say the least: just after the first boot, Windows 11 was quick to try and reach third-party servers with absolutely no prior user permission or intervention."
I highly doubt that "absolutely no prior user permission or intervention" happened here. Most likely didn't read the EULA on that "freshly-installed copy of Windows 11" or clicked through the whole out-of-the-box experience during the first login without reading what it enables.
- nsxwolf 4y agoIs that really permission? It's that or not use the laptop, right?
- jimbobimbo 4y agoThere're other laptop/OS manufacturers that may serve needs of privacy-conscious folks better than Windows laptop. Whether one likes it or not, there's no constitutional right to use this specific laptop/OS combination.
- nsxwolf 4y agoYeah, but maybe consumers should still be very vocal about it.
- jimbobimbo 4y agoThey definitely should. But also they should NOT make misleading claims like "absolutely no prior user permission or intervention". Look, it's not that $1T company needs my defense, but it's a rather safe bet that CYA exercise was done by them before unleashing this to the world.
- grugagag 4y ago> freshly-installed copy of Windows 11" or clicked through the whole out-of-the-box experience during the first login without reading what it enables. Isn’t that what the most non tech savvy / common user has to deal with? A mom or pop, a relative perhaps? And if it’s possible to de-junk windows 11 why bother? Who has time for that whack-a-mole game of turning things off and have them back on when the system updates? Again, why bother? Windows 11 doesn’t anything compelling to justify wasting my in the first place
- jimbobimbo 4y agoThen buy another OS/laptop? It's not like there're no other options.
- grugagag 4y agoYes, sure. Are you implying I can't share my opinion with regards to Win11 though?
- jimbobimbo 4y agoI'm not implying anything. My issue with TFA is the "absolutely no prior user permission or intervention" claim. My counter-argument is that clicking without reading through the EULA and/or the out-of-the-box experience during the first login most likely results in providing consent whether one likes it or not.