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Do you honestly not see how your own narrative could be seen as dismissive to the vast majority of the world? And yes, I do see value in comparing scars, as do

by mouse_ 4y ago

Do you honestly not see how your own narrative could be seen as dismissive to the vast majority of the world? And yes, I do see value in comparing scars, as do most people who do not reside in the high tower. I understand the social rift between you and I is comparable to living on a different planet, and I forgive you for not getting that, but others may not. Please just understand that our current situation is particularly perilous and likely will not last long. I hope you are prepared and able to cope with greater stressors.

antihipocrat 4y ago
The physical experience and effects of enduring a stressful environment is the same for everyone regardless of who they are, where they're from, or what they are doing. An equivalent high stress environment can occur whether working in an executive office, working in a call center or selling bracelets on the street. Learning to overcome high stress experiences is a transferrable skill regardless of the context in which it was learned.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
  > An equivalent high stress environment can occur whether working in an executive office, working in a call center or selling bracelets on the street. This doesn't necessarily mean an equivalent high-stress life. The call center employee has fewer or worse options for dealing with stressors outside their job which they share with the executive. > I need to eat. > I need to travel. > I need somewhere to live. By and large these things cost money and the person who doesn't have to worry about having enough money for such things is going to have less stress in their life.
  - datavirtue 4y ago
    ...period. Just because you are overly stressed out about your BMW/Tesla repair saga doesn't mean it is equivalent to someone who NEVER has enough money for basic nessesities. Your luxury car repair drama is fleeting. Being wracked with stress about your entire life 24/7 only lets up when your mind finds a way to squirm out of it for a minute by watching a show or powering through a package of cookies on your couch. Stress is not equivalent across all. Mr BMW has no idea how much his energy bill was last month, smiles every time he pays his mortgage. Single mom carries a past due balance of $800 and barely makes rent each month. Two different, not equivalent, worlds.
    - caddemon 4y ago
      I don't think "BMW repairs" is the main source of stress for high income people lol. I don't know whether it is fair to compare stressors across such different groups, but regardless I don't think it's fair to caricature what high income workers might be stressed about. One of my friends that happens to drive a BMW is a cardiac surgeon, and when he gets stressed over work I can guarantee you it is not about financial implications. In general, management level decisions can affect entire teams of workers and have downstream impacts on products used by millions of people. That is a form of pressure. So is the way pro athletes can be put on the spot, and it's not like their output has huge "real world" impact. Yeah, obviously we'd all rather have pro athlete stress than single working mom stress. But there's 0 reason to strawman what that stress is.
WalterBright 4y ago
> our current situation is particularly perilous How so?
- jessaustin 4y ago
  Our leaders are attempting to start a nuclear war, after twenty years of disastrous wars that have enriched armaments manufacturers while murdering millions of innocents. Working people haven't had a raise since 1971. We spend twice as much on health care as any other nation, but only Peru, Brazil, and several nations in Eastern Europe had worse results from covid. All of Africa cared for covid cases better than we did. I'm sure you can think of other issues.
fjdiemsloien 4y ago
What's the worst stress you've ever experienced? What's the worst stress the person you're replying to has ever experienced? I'm very curious about how you know so much about the parent commenter's life compared to your own.
Cupertino95014 4y ago
How many of the people claiming that it's "all the same" ever actually talk to any of the low-status people? I mean, where does your knowledge come from?

by mouse_ 4y ago

antihipocrat 4y ago

The physical experience and effects of enduring a stressful environment is the same for everyone regardless of who they are, where they're from, or what they are doing. An equivalent high stress environment can occur whether working in an executive office, working in a call center or selling bracelets on the street. Learning to overcome high stress experiences is a transferrable skill regardless of the context in which it was learned.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
> An equivalent high stress environment can occur whether working in an executive office, working in a call center or selling bracelets on the street. This doesn't necessarily mean an equivalent high-stress life. The call center employee has fewer or worse options for dealing with stressors outside their job which they share with the executive. > I need to eat. > I need to travel. > I need somewhere to live. By and large these things cost money and the person who doesn't have to worry about having enough money for such things is going to have less stress in their life.
- datavirtue 4y ago
  ...period. Just because you are overly stressed out about your BMW/Tesla repair saga doesn't mean it is equivalent to someone who NEVER has enough money for basic nessesities. Your luxury car repair drama is fleeting. Being wracked with stress about your entire life 24/7 only lets up when your mind finds a way to squirm out of it for a minute by watching a show or powering through a package of cookies on your couch. Stress is not equivalent across all. Mr BMW has no idea how much his energy bill was last month, smiles every time he pays his mortgage. Single mom carries a past due balance of $800 and barely makes rent each month. Two different, not equivalent, worlds.
  - caddemon 4y ago
    I don't think "BMW repairs" is the main source of stress for high income people lol. I don't know whether it is fair to compare stressors across such different groups, but regardless I don't think it's fair to caricature what high income workers might be stressed about. One of my friends that happens to drive a BMW is a cardiac surgeon, and when he gets stressed over work I can guarantee you it is not about financial implications. In general, management level decisions can affect entire teams of workers and have downstream impacts on products used by millions of people. That is a form of pressure. So is the way pro athletes can be put on the spot, and it's not like their output has huge "real world" impact. Yeah, obviously we'd all rather have pro athlete stress than single working mom stress. But there's 0 reason to strawman what that stress is.

WalterBright 4y ago

> our current situation is particularly perilous How so?

jessaustin 4y ago
Our leaders are attempting to start a nuclear war, after twenty years of disastrous wars that have enriched armaments manufacturers while murdering millions of innocents. Working people haven't had a raise since 1971. We spend twice as much on health care as any other nation, but only Peru, Brazil, and several nations in Eastern Europe had worse results from covid. All of Africa cared for covid cases better than we did. I'm sure you can think of other issues.

fjdiemsloien 4y ago

What's the worst stress you've ever experienced? What's the worst stress the person you're replying to has ever experienced? I'm very curious about how you know so much about the parent commenter's life compared to your own.

Cupertino95014 4y ago

How many of the people claiming that it's "all the same" ever actually talk to any of the low-status people? I mean, where does your knowledge come from?