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>The White House on Wednesday dismissed a blog post by a U.S. investigative journalist alleging the United States was behind explosions of the Nord Stream gas p
by r721 4y ago
>The White House on Wednesday dismissed a blog post by a U.S. investigative journalist alleging the United States was behind explosions of the Nord Stream gas pipelines as "utterly false and complete fiction."
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>"This is utterly false and complete fiction," said Adrienne Watson, a spokesperson for the White House National Security Council. Spokespeople for the CIA and State Department said the same.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-nord-stream-explosion-is-utterly-false-2023-02-08/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-says-blog-post-...
- steponlego 4y agoThe problem is they lie all day, every day, even about trivial stuff that’s easily verified. This looks more like an admission of guilt.
- gs17 4y agoIs there anything they could say or do, without providing undeniable evidence someone else did it that you would believe? If "we didn't do it" reads as "we did it", what do you expect them to do, not respond at all? That would be more suspicious to me.
- Apocryphon 4y agoSounds like they should provide undeniable evidence then!
- macintux 4y agoEven if they had it, they likely couldn’t share it for security reasons. And of course, proving innocence is effectively impossible without proving someone else did it.
- Apocryphon 4y agoSure. I'm just curious about who did it and hey if Hersh is providing one narrative, it's better than the lack of answers or even any attempt at an investigatory effort from any party, whether NATO or Russian.
- steponlego 4y agoThe lack of real concern on all parties about trying to figure out who did it is essentially proof of who did it. You have multiple PMs and FMs saying in the days afterward that "everybody knows" who did it. Who did it? If it was Russia and "everybody knew" then that'd have entered the press.
- Apocryphon 4y agoWhat if they all did it as some sort of gentleman’s agreement
- hef19898 4y agoThen it was Switzerland. Nobody suspects them, everybody was fine with Nord Stream gone but there was no agreement on who gets to blow it up. So Switzerland volunteered. Proof me wrong!
- Apocryphon 4y agoClose. It was not the Swiss proper, but specifically the Papal Swiss Guard acting under the command of the Holy See. Since it is not a nation-state like Switzerland, this adds another additional layer of neutrality and deniability to satisfy all parties involved.
- hef19898 4y agoAnd the Swiss guard is made up entirely of single men with top notch training! Of course it was them!
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- treis 4y agoThey could definitely share or leak it to a trusted source without any real security implications.
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- Khelavaster 4y agoThis tone of denial makes them sound like they were caught red-handed.
- swamp40 4y agoOr else the reporter shifted the tone.
- miguelazo 4y agoWas this included for comic relief? Or did you actually think we should take the CIA or State Department PR seriously?
- jessaustin 4y agoIt's a fair question, but those quotes are in TFA.
- Sed47_ 4y agoI will definitely take a random substack blog more seriously. After all, he is citing "unnamed sources"! Very credible!
- nivenkos 4y agoIt's not a random substack blog, it's one of the most famous journalists (a real one, no less!) in the world.