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Okay, data is great, but the conclusions at the end have almost nothing to do with the data. They're a bunch of unsupported assumptions about what we've changed

Okay, data is great, but the conclusions at the end have almost nothing to do with the data. They're a bunch of unsupported assumptions about what we've changed that must have caused all of this. It includes two separate links to his article about how we're ruining the children by coddling them with woke bullshit. Here's the tagline: "In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like. Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health."

cholantesh 4y ago
Haidt has been flogging that particular horse since about 2012; maybe there's a correlation there.
hobom 4y ago
This is not an accurate reading of the Conclusion section. He just sums up what has been observed and does not mention any causal factors. Earlier, he explicitly says that causal factos will be covered by other posts. While he indeed links to another article, he claims at no point in this article that coddling is a factor here.
hinkley 4y ago
Boomers are full of men white knuckling their way through lives of quiet desperation (is the English way. The time is gone, the song is over. Thought I’d something more to say). Their children were brought up that way, and maybe only started to question it in adulthood, with their own children, or before grandchildren came. As long as the kids don’t get parenting advice from grandma and grandpa, there’s more permission to ask for help. I’m surprised the numbers for girls are still so high relative to boys, but not surprised that the rate for boys is catching up.
- at_a_remove 4y ago
  I don't know if it is much of a generational, ignore your feelings bit. We're all so busy, never seem to find the time. Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines. If anything, I think time pressure has increased, we're all more "available" now. Increasing pressure to get into a good (and hopelessly expensive) college, too, may be a factor. I know seventeen year olds who think they've missed the starting gun.

cholantesh 4y ago

Haidt has been flogging that particular horse since about 2012; maybe there's a correlation there.

hobom 4y ago

This is not an accurate reading of the Conclusion section. He just sums up what has been observed and does not mention any causal factors. Earlier, he explicitly says that causal factos will be covered by other posts. While he indeed links to another article, he claims at no point in this article that coddling is a factor here.

hinkley 4y ago

Boomers are full of men white knuckling their way through lives of quiet desperation (is the English way. The time is gone, the song is over. Thought I’d something more to say). Their children were brought up that way, and maybe only started to question it in adulthood, with their own children, or before grandchildren came. As long as the kids don’t get parenting advice from grandma and grandpa, there’s more permission to ask for help. I’m surprised the numbers for girls are still so high relative to boys, but not surprised that the rate for boys is catching up.

at_a_remove 4y ago
I don't know if it is much of a generational, ignore your feelings bit. We're all so busy, never seem to find the time. Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines. If anything, I think time pressure has increased, we're all more "available" now. Increasing pressure to get into a good (and hopelessly expensive) college, too, may be a factor. I know seventeen year olds who think they've missed the starting gun.