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A smartphone does nothing what a desktop computer (with ubiquitous root access) doesn't and apocalypse still hasn't happened. Your literal argument was used fo

by izacus 4y ago

A smartphone does nothing what a desktop computer (with ubiquitous root access) doesn't and apocalypse still hasn't happened. Your literal argument was used for game consoles as well (Oh egads, what will happen if we allow freedom to infest our DRM protected systems?!) until Valve proved everyone wrong. Maybe instead of spewing the same corporate profiteering arguments here, perhaps think on how we could design our software for freedom AND security and whether defending megacorp monopolies is worth the small improvement in security you're getting in return?

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
>apocalypse still hasn't happened. The anti-virus and anti-malware markets are each multi-billion dollar industries; end-point protection is a top-five information security concern for any enterprise; new and exciting ransomware incidents fill the news every week; millions of PCs contribute to botnets that deliver DDoS attacks for pay... It might not be the apocalypse but it's pretty goddamn terrible.
- izacus 4y ago
  > It might not be the apocalypse but it's pretty goddamn terrible. In what way and why are you (well, actually a corporation with monetary interest) making a decision to lockout users because of those industries? (Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.)
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    > (Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.) McAfee was taken private in 2021 for $14B https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/8/22769910/mcafee-private-investor-group-acquisition-software https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/8/22769910/mcafee-private-i... And had quarterly revenue of $500M at the time: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/mcafee-corp.-mcfe-surpasses-q3-earnings-and-revenue-estimates https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/mcafee-corp.-mcfe-surpasses-... For one endpoint security example, unless I misunderstood.
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  - bastardoperator 4y ago
    What if I told you that I myself along with the vast majority of consumers just simply do not care about underlying access.
  - RHSeeger 4y ago
    >(Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.) Judging by a fair number of articles, you would be mistaken https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220104005794/en/Global-Antivirus-Software-Market-Report-2021-Market-is-Expected-to-Reach-4.54-Billion-in-2025---Forecast-to-2030---ResearchAndMarkets.com https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220104005794/en/Glo... > The global antivirus software market is expected to grow from $3.80 billion in 2020 to $3.92 billion in 2021
  - soiler 4y ago
    > In what way and why are you (well, actually a corporation with monetary interest) making a decision to lockout users because of those industries? Did you forget that the conversation was about phones being locked down to protect against these kinds of malware?

by izacus 4y ago

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago

>apocalypse still hasn't happened. The anti-virus and anti-malware markets are each multi-billion dollar industries; end-point protection is a top-five information security concern for any enterprise; new and exciting ransomware incidents fill the news every week; millions of PCs contribute to botnets that deliver DDoS attacks for pay... It might not be the apocalypse but it's pretty goddamn terrible.

izacus 4y ago
> It might not be the apocalypse but it's pretty goddamn terrible. In what way and why are you (well, actually a corporation with monetary interest) making a decision to lockout users because of those industries? (Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.)
- mysterydip 4y ago
  > (Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.) McAfee was taken private in 2021 for $14B https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/8/22769910/mcafee-private-investor-group-acquisition-software https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/8/22769910/mcafee-private-i... And had quarterly revenue of $500M at the time: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/mcafee-corp.-mcfe-surpasses-q3-earnings-and-revenue-estimates https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/mcafee-corp.-mcfe-surpasses-... For one endpoint security example, unless I misunderstood.
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- bastardoperator 4y ago
  What if I told you that I myself along with the vast majority of consumers just simply do not care about underlying access.
- RHSeeger 4y ago
  >(Also multi-billion? Strongly doubt that.) Judging by a fair number of articles, you would be mistaken https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220104005794/en/Global-Antivirus-Software-Market-Report-2021-Market-is-Expected-to-Reach-4.54-Billion-in-2025---Forecast-to-2030---ResearchAndMarkets.com https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220104005794/en/Glo... > The global antivirus software market is expected to grow from $3.80 billion in 2020 to $3.92 billion in 2021
- soiler 4y ago
  > In what way and why are you (well, actually a corporation with monetary interest) making a decision to lockout users because of those industries? Did you forget that the conversation was about phones being locked down to protect against these kinds of malware?