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> they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it I don't understand what you're suggesting CIA agents

> they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it I don't understand what you're suggesting CIA agents are controlling. What is "them" in "they control them"? The article you link to involves surveillance (rather than control) by the FBI (rather than CIA).

Kukumber 4y ago
They are in charge of the disinformation/moderation teams An example: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ They are in most social media companies So they can decide what to ban that could hinder their national social order Something Turkey can't do with Twitter, hence a ban, just like the US with TikTok and the pseudo "algorithm" With the amount of misinformation that spreads in Twitter, it is the right thing to do It was similar with Iran, and that coincides with Musk purchasing Twitter and dismantling the moderation team making it unable to function at all https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-reportedly-144000292.html https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-repo...
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  > it is the right thing to do You had me nodding until this part. Yes, twitter is filled with misinformation. But government censorship is more dangerous than misinformation. Governments have killed more people than anything else short of heart attacks and cancer. Governments murdered hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century; giving governments the power to censor whatever the government deems to be misinformation is insanely dangerous. The most dangerous kind of misinformation is that which is promulgated by the government itself.
  - chopin 4y ago
    Any government, to emphasize. Who gets to decide what constitutes misinformation?
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    It's one of the mission of the CIA, spread propaganda, use influence to manipulate the press and journalists all over the world etc, back during the cold war Using social media to achieve this mission is the natural evolution, as peoples usage to get information changes over time It's very well documented, so seeing them at key roles isn't a surprise, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone They can't do it with TikTok, the app of choice of the youth and people all over the world https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696 https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696
EricE 4y ago
Good god - the FBI recently got outed (Twitter files - Elon Musk - hello?) paying more than $30M to Twitter to do their bidding. Are you really this ignorant of current events?
- jrochkind1 4y ago
  It's pretty clear we all these days live in different bubbles, of what is "widely known current events". Googling, it looks like it was $3 million, not $30 million, for data requested with court order for such, rather than for suppressing speech or other control? It was still the FBI, not the CIA? This one? https://reason.com/2022/12/19/the-fbi-paid-twitter-3-4-million-for-processing-requests/ https://reason.com/2022/12/19/the-fbi-paid-twitter-3-4-milli... Yes, I legitimately didn't know what the GP I was replying to was suggesting that the CIA controlled, what "them" meant. Now that they replied, I understand what they are suggesting, and think they are... living in a different bubble than me.

Kukumber 4y ago

They are in charge of the disinformation/moderation teams An example: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ They are in most social media companies So they can decide what to ban that could hinder their national social order Something Turkey can't do with Twitter, hence a ban, just like the US with TikTok and the pseudo "algorithm" With the amount of misinformation that spreads in Twitter, it is the right thing to do It was similar with Iran, and that coincides with Musk purchasing Twitter and dismantling the moderation team making it unable to function at all https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-reportedly-144000292.html https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-repo...

LarryMullins 4y ago
> it is the right thing to do You had me nodding until this part. Yes, twitter is filled with misinformation. But government censorship is more dangerous than misinformation. Governments have killed more people than anything else short of heart attacks and cancer. Governments murdered hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century; giving governments the power to censor whatever the government deems to be misinformation is insanely dangerous. The most dangerous kind of misinformation is that which is promulgated by the government itself.
- chopin 4y ago
  Any government, to emphasize. Who gets to decide what constitutes misinformation?
- Kukumber 4y ago
  It's one of the mission of the CIA, spread propaganda, use influence to manipulate the press and journalists all over the world etc, back during the cold war Using social media to achieve this mission is the natural evolution, as peoples usage to get information changes over time It's very well documented, so seeing them at key roles isn't a surprise, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone They can't do it with TikTok, the app of choice of the youth and people all over the world https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696 https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696

EricE 4y ago

Good god - the FBI recently got outed (Twitter files - Elon Musk - hello?) paying more than $30M to Twitter to do their bidding. Are you really this ignorant of current events?

jrochkind1 4y ago
It's pretty clear we all these days live in different bubbles, of what is "widely known current events". Googling, it looks like it was $3 million, not $30 million, for data requested with court order for such, rather than for suppressing speech or other control? It was still the FBI, not the CIA? This one? https://reason.com/2022/12/19/the-fbi-paid-twitter-3-4-million-for-processing-requests/ https://reason.com/2022/12/19/the-fbi-paid-twitter-3-4-milli... Yes, I legitimately didn't know what the GP I was replying to was suggesting that the CIA controlled, what "them" meant. Now that they replied, I understand what they are suggesting, and think they are... living in a different bubble than me.