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> Meanwhile the company was focusing on DEI vs skill, and thoughtfulness over delivery That has nothing to do with any of this. Google's doom was due to their

> Meanwhile the company was focusing on DEI vs skill, and thoughtfulness over delivery That has nothing to do with any of this. Google's doom was due to their total lack of empathy for their end users and customers. They launched stuff, then when those things did not immediately produce gigantic profits like the search ads, they just shut them down on the users' face. One can do it once, twice, the third time people wont even bother to use that company's products. Such is the case with Google. https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprecation-policy-is-killing-you-ee7525dc05dc https://steve-yegge.medium.com/dear-google-cloud-your-deprec... The level of distrust in public can be gauged from how the executives of Gcloud are trying to win customer trust by giving all sort of guarantees. And yet failing to do so.

xwdv 4y ago
I’ve done consulting at Google and know many Xooglers and I can confidently say Google considers users as nothing more than cattle to be shuffled into products where they can be milked for profit. They have no more empathy for a user than they would have for an animal destined to the slaughterhouse. Remember that next time you use a google product.
- unity1001 4y ago
  Blunt. But feels accurate.
karamanolev 4y ago
>> Meanwhile the company was focusing on DEI vs skill, and thoughtfulness over delivery > That has nothing to do with any of this. I wouldn't say it's central, but it's definitely not nothing. When a lot of your recognition comes from DEI efforts, "me too" and other such efforts, you can't expect proper focus. There are plenty of irrelevant internal drives where just aligning with them benefits you greatly, instead of aiming to quickly deliver an excellent, user-focused product and then making it even better over time.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > I wouldn't say it's central, but it's definitely not nothing. When a lot of your recognition comes from DEI efforts I suspect that those efforts were a tiny drop in the ocean of the expense that Google was spending on product investments. If they were anything significant that could affect profits, they wouldnt do anything about it but some PR shows...

xwdv 4y ago

I’ve done consulting at Google and know many Xooglers and I can confidently say Google considers users as nothing more than cattle to be shuffled into products where they can be milked for profit. They have no more empathy for a user than they would have for an animal destined to the slaughterhouse. Remember that next time you use a google product.

unity1001 4y ago
Blunt. But feels accurate.

karamanolev 4y ago

>> Meanwhile the company was focusing on DEI vs skill, and thoughtfulness over delivery > That has nothing to do with any of this. I wouldn't say it's central, but it's definitely not nothing. When a lot of your recognition comes from DEI efforts, "me too" and other such efforts, you can't expect proper focus. There are plenty of irrelevant internal drives where just aligning with them benefits you greatly, instead of aiming to quickly deliver an excellent, user-focused product and then making it even better over time.

unity1001 4y ago
> I wouldn't say it's central, but it's definitely not nothing. When a lot of your recognition comes from DEI efforts I suspect that those efforts were a tiny drop in the ocean of the expense that Google was spending on product investments. If they were anything significant that could affect profits, they wouldnt do anything about it but some PR shows...