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> Twitter was heavily used to seek help by people in turmoil, even hundreds of people were posting from under the rubbles. The officials were claiming that ever

> Twitter was heavily used to seek help by people in turmoil, even hundreds of people were posting from under the rubbles. The officials were claiming that everything was under control and they are helping everyone but people were posting videos showing the situation on the ground and the situation didn't look even close to being under control. Social media is the first target no matter the country The US do the exact same [1], they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it In fact, it's the first thing the US want to do for foreign apps, to ban them, just like with TikTok [2], they are recent talks about a global ban too So we can't just throw the stone at Turkey, you have to examinate the situation, they had a terrorist attack in Istanbul in november [3], mossad agents doing shady things [4], wich btw gives flashbacks of the failed coup by the mossad [5] (imagine if the coup succeeded knowing how the Ukraine-Russia conflict developped and the current issues in Azerbaijan-Armenia, they dodged something sinister) Twitter is known to be a place with lot of political activity, it's easy for a foreign country to spread misinformation, there are lot of noise And Twitter is not the most popular social media app in Turkey, plus the population in that region is not tech savvy either [1] - https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/federal-agents-monitored-facebook-arrest-protesters-inciting-riots-court-records-n1231531 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/federal-agents-mon... [1#] - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-riddled-ex-CIA-agents-ex-FBI-agents-work-Twitter.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11562433/Facebook-r... [2] - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/30/us-tiktok-ban-government-devices-china https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/30/us-tiktok... [3] - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63615076 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63615076 [4] - https://www.aljazeera.com/program/al-jazeera-world/2023/1/11/an-investigation-into-the-mossads-activities-in-turkey https://www.aljazeera.com/program/al-jazeera-world/2023/1/11... [5] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

jrochkind1 4y ago
> they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it I don't understand what you're suggesting CIA agents are controlling. What is "them" in "they control them"? The article you link to involves surveillance (rather than control) by the FBI (rather than CIA).
- Kukumber 4y ago
  They are in charge of the disinformation/moderation teams An example: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ They are in most social media companies So they can decide what to ban that could hinder their national social order Something Turkey can't do with Twitter, hence a ban, just like the US with TikTok and the pseudo "algorithm" With the amount of misinformation that spreads in Twitter, it is the right thing to do It was similar with Iran, and that coincides with Musk purchasing Twitter and dismantling the moderation team making it unable to function at all https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-reportedly-144000292.html https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-repo...
  - LarryMullins 4y ago
    > it is the right thing to do You had me nodding until this part. Yes, twitter is filled with misinformation. But government censorship is more dangerous than misinformation. Governments have killed more people than anything else short of heart attacks and cancer. Governments murdered hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century; giving governments the power to censor whatever the government deems to be misinformation is insanely dangerous. The most dangerous kind of misinformation is that which is promulgated by the government itself.
    - chopin 4y ago
      Any government, to emphasize. Who gets to decide what constitutes misinformation?
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      It's one of the mission of the CIA, spread propaganda, use influence to manipulate the press and journalists all over the world etc, back during the cold war Using social media to achieve this mission is the natural evolution, as peoples usage to get information changes over time It's very well documented, so seeing them at key roles isn't a surprise, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone They can't do it with TikTok, the app of choice of the youth and people all over the world https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696 https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696
joshuaissac 4y ago
> wich btw gives flashbacks of the failed coup by the mossad Turkey has not even accused Mossad of being involved in the failed coup d'etat.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  The wiki mentions the CIA, but their investigations found links to groups helped by both the mossad and the CIA, i'll try to find the link for the investigation, i'll edit the post once i find it
ryandrake 4y ago
Your source links don't match up with what you're saying. For example, with [1#] you claim the US "controls" social media with CIA agents, but [1#] simply shows a social media company that merely hired former CIA agents. That's like saying Facebook hired a bunch of ex-Microsoft people, therefore Microsoft controls Facebook. Doesn't make sense.

jrochkind1 4y ago

> they control them with CIA agents [1*], so it is easier for them to do profiling rather than blocking it I don't understand what you're suggesting CIA agents are controlling. What is "them" in "they control them"? The article you link to involves surveillance (rather than control) by the FBI (rather than CIA).

Kukumber 4y ago
They are in charge of the disinformation/moderation teams An example: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/aarondberman/ They are in most social media companies So they can decide what to ban that could hinder their national social order Something Turkey can't do with Twitter, hence a ban, just like the US with TikTok and the pseudo "algorithm" With the amount of misinformation that spreads in Twitter, it is the right thing to do It was similar with Iran, and that coincides with Musk purchasing Twitter and dismantling the moderation team making it unable to function at all https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-reportedly-144000292.html https://news.yahoo.com/twitters-content-moderation-team-repo...
- LarryMullins 4y ago
  > it is the right thing to do You had me nodding until this part. Yes, twitter is filled with misinformation. But government censorship is more dangerous than misinformation. Governments have killed more people than anything else short of heart attacks and cancer. Governments murdered hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century; giving governments the power to censor whatever the government deems to be misinformation is insanely dangerous. The most dangerous kind of misinformation is that which is promulgated by the government itself.
  - chopin 4y ago
    Any government, to emphasize. Who gets to decide what constitutes misinformation?
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    It's one of the mission of the CIA, spread propaganda, use influence to manipulate the press and journalists all over the world etc, back during the cold war Using social media to achieve this mission is the natural evolution, as peoples usage to get information changes over time It's very well documented, so seeing them at key roles isn't a surprise, and shouldn't be a surprise to anyone They can't do it with TikTok, the app of choice of the youth and people all over the world https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://wikileaks.org/wiki/John_R._Stockwell https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696 https://twitter.com/MichaelNo2War/status/1589793529823645696

joshuaissac 4y ago

> wich btw gives flashbacks of the failed coup by the mossad Turkey has not even accused Mossad of being involved in the failed coup d'etat.

Kukumber 4y ago
The wiki mentions the CIA, but their investigations found links to groups helped by both the mossad and the CIA, i'll try to find the link for the investigation, i'll edit the post once i find it

ryandrake 4y ago

Your source links don't match up with what you're saying. For example, with [1#] you claim the US "controls" social media with CIA agents, but [1#] simply shows a social media company that merely hired former CIA agents. That's like saying Facebook hired a bunch of ex-Microsoft people, therefore Microsoft controls Facebook. Doesn't make sense.