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Let's not pretend for a second that people are actually looking for privacy whilst they walk around with iphones, with tiktok, facebook, money apps, location tr

Let's not pretend for a second that people are actually looking for privacy whilst they walk around with iphones, with tiktok, facebook, money apps, location tracking fitness apps etc. Anyway, I think governments could regulate better to make payments more of a public infrastructure type deal. The banks will still make a stack of cash on all the other things they do.

hcks 4y ago
Why are people always pretending there is no difference between being tracked by Facebook, and by your government? Facebook’s goal is mostly to make money. Facebook will not put you in jail, or fine you. As bad as you think these companies are, they never committed war, crimes or genocides. There is a massive difference between being tracked by states (who have a monopoly on violence and terrible track records) and advertising firms.
- starkd 4y ago
  I think the Twitter Files blew the lid off on the illusion that corporations are private in the sense they get no direction from the government. Matt Taibbi found the FBI to be deeply embedded in Twitter. Don't think they are not at Facebook as well.
  - realce 4y ago
    BLEW THE LID off of a practice that every single communications providers ever created in America since the FBI existed has done, you mean?
    - starkd 4y ago
      True. But not nearly to this scale and ease.
      - blitzar 4y ago
        "The twitter files" while cherry picked to manipulate the narrative to attempt to show the opposite simply demonstrated that corporations reject the state requests as often as they oblige the state.
- Devasta 4y ago
  Facebook is implicated in facilitating genocide in multiple countries.
- gonzo41 4y ago
  Please read this. Facebook is starting to rack up it's own bodycount https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...
starkd 4y ago
People are generally not worried about privacy until they have direct reason to be. Unfortunately, that is usually when it is too late.

hcks 4y ago

Why are people always pretending there is no difference between being tracked by Facebook, and by your government? Facebook’s goal is mostly to make money. Facebook will not put you in jail, or fine you. As bad as you think these companies are, they never committed war, crimes or genocides. There is a massive difference between being tracked by states (who have a monopoly on violence and terrible track records) and advertising firms.

starkd 4y ago
I think the Twitter Files blew the lid off on the illusion that corporations are private in the sense they get no direction from the government. Matt Taibbi found the FBI to be deeply embedded in Twitter. Don't think they are not at Facebook as well.
- realce 4y ago
  BLEW THE LID off of a practice that every single communications providers ever created in America since the FBI existed has done, you mean?
  - starkd 4y ago
    True. But not nearly to this scale and ease.
    - blitzar 4y ago
      "The twitter files" while cherry picked to manipulate the narrative to attempt to show the opposite simply demonstrated that corporations reject the state requests as often as they oblige the state.
Devasta 4y ago
Facebook is implicated in facilitating genocide in multiple countries.
gonzo41 4y ago
Please read this. Facebook is starting to rack up it's own bodycount https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-facebooks-systems-promoted-violence-against-rohingya-meta-owes-reparations-new-report/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

starkd 4y ago

People are generally not worried about privacy until they have direct reason to be. Unfortunately, that is usually when it is too late.