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Maybe you should match your figures with those of the Physicians for Social Responsibility: "However, should the number of Iraqis killed from the 2003 U.S. inv

by aa-jv 4y ago

Maybe you should match your figures with those of the Physicians for Social Responsibility: "However, should the number of Iraqis killed from the 2003 U.S. invasion until 2012 actually be around one million, as the analysis of the existing scientific studies presented in the present study suggests, this would represent 5% of the total population of Iraq .." Of course Americans' aren't going to own up to the magnitude of this crime. But it should be noted that this report was issued in 2015 - and a lot more death has happened since then. 5% is a conservative estimate.

ceejayoz 4y ago
The population of Iraq is 43 million. 1/43 isn't anywhere near 5%, and I'm not inclined to credit all of the high-end estimate of 1M to Americans.
- somenameforme 4y ago
  The estimate of 1 million casualties is from 2007. We had not yet even begun withdrawing troops, and things like The War in Iraq (Islamic State) wouldn't even start until 2013. And that war was directly caused by our actions. There's also the question of "when" when talking about a percent. The population of Iraq in 2003 (when the war started) was around 26 million. Their exceptionally rapid population growth is ironic when talking about us killing off a large chunk of their population, but relevant nonetheless. You end up with this weird scenario where Iraqi lives are measured (for those using percentages) less meaningful each year that passes. Ultimately using percents is probably just a bad idea, and it's not like it's necessary to contextualize here how killing whether hundreds of thousands of some low millions of people, primarily civilians, is a really awful thing to do, let alone in a war based entirely on fabricated evidence.
- Etheryte 4y ago
  The population if Iraq is 43 million right now, I'm sure you can appreciate the fact that the Iraq war is not happening right now, but instead started roughly two decades ago when the population was considerably different.

by aa-jv 4y ago

ceejayoz 4y ago

The population of Iraq is 43 million. 1/43 isn't anywhere near 5%, and I'm not inclined to credit all of the high-end estimate of 1M to Americans.

somenameforme 4y ago
The estimate of 1 million casualties is from 2007. We had not yet even begun withdrawing troops, and things like The War in Iraq (Islamic State) wouldn't even start until 2013. And that war was directly caused by our actions. There's also the question of "when" when talking about a percent. The population of Iraq in 2003 (when the war started) was around 26 million. Their exceptionally rapid population growth is ironic when talking about us killing off a large chunk of their population, but relevant nonetheless. You end up with this weird scenario where Iraqi lives are measured (for those using percentages) less meaningful each year that passes. Ultimately using percents is probably just a bad idea, and it's not like it's necessary to contextualize here how killing whether hundreds of thousands of some low millions of people, primarily civilians, is a really awful thing to do, let alone in a war based entirely on fabricated evidence.
Etheryte 4y ago
The population if Iraq is 43 million right now, I'm sure you can appreciate the fact that the Iraq war is not happening right now, but instead started roughly two decades ago when the population was considerably different.