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You're not wrong, because that is true too, but it is NATO that scares Russia. Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something

by dmpk2k 4y ago

You're not wrong, because that is true too, but it is NATO that scares Russia. Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something Americans can at all relate to. The American Civil War is small potatoes compared to some of the things that Russians (and other continental countries) have been through. It makes for a very paranoid country.

The_Colonel 4y ago
> Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something Americans can at all relate to. This is something which most European countries can relate to, but they don't use it (anymore) to justify imperialism.
- dmpk2k 4y ago
  Of course not, because they are all American vassals. Being under the Pax Americana umbrella myself, I'm quite okay with that. However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious.
  - The_Colonel 4y ago
    > Of course not, because they are all American vassals. Someone is eating the Russian propaganda here. Projection and all. > However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious. It can be as suspicious as it wants, within its borders.
    - dmpk2k 4y ago
      That knee-jerk reply exemplifies why there won't be any negotiations any time soon, and I'm just some random person on the Internet. You need to take a walk, and I'm out too.
      - neoromantique 4y ago
        That's okay, time for negotiations has long passed.
somethingreen 4y ago
The amount of effort you people put into not hearing what russians have on multiple occasions in plainest of words claimed to be the goal of the war is honestly mind boggling.
- enjoy-your-stay 4y ago
  Was it denazification, demilitarization, or de-satanization? I've lost track of the many stated goals. Or was it to help those poor souls in the DPR shoot down more civilian jets? Can't quite remember. Or was it to protect German speakers in the Sudetenland? And anyway, it's not a war. It's a Special Military Operation. How more plain can you get?
  - girvo 4y ago
    I think it was something to do with pigeons and bioweapons? /s

by dmpk2k 4y ago

The_Colonel 4y ago

> Given Russia's long history of bloody invasions, I don't think this is something Americans can at all relate to. This is something which most European countries can relate to, but they don't use it (anymore) to justify imperialism.

dmpk2k 4y ago
Of course not, because they are all American vassals. Being under the Pax Americana umbrella myself, I'm quite okay with that. However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious.
- The_Colonel 4y ago
  > Of course not, because they are all American vassals. Someone is eating the Russian propaganda here. Projection and all. > However, I hope you can understand why a major power like Russia might be suspicious. It can be as suspicious as it wants, within its borders.
  - dmpk2k 4y ago
    That knee-jerk reply exemplifies why there won't be any negotiations any time soon, and I'm just some random person on the Internet. You need to take a walk, and I'm out too.
    - neoromantique 4y ago
      That's okay, time for negotiations has long passed.

somethingreen 4y ago

The amount of effort you people put into not hearing what russians have on multiple occasions in plainest of words claimed to be the goal of the war is honestly mind boggling.

enjoy-your-stay 4y ago
Was it denazification, demilitarization, or de-satanization? I've lost track of the many stated goals. Or was it to help those poor souls in the DPR shoot down more civilian jets? Can't quite remember. Or was it to protect German speakers in the Sudetenland? And anyway, it's not a war. It's a Special Military Operation. How more plain can you get?
- girvo 4y ago
  I think it was something to do with pigeons and bioweapons? /s