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Weird take to equate a commercial cloud with a life-saving hospital. Doctors have a duty of care to patients. Nobody's going to die because Azure Splines didn't

Weird take to equate a commercial cloud with a life-saving hospital. Doctors have a duty of care to patients. Nobody's going to die because Azure Splines didn't implement the reticulation feature that people are asking for in their forums.

jiggawatts 4y ago
A significant chunk of our state’s Department of Health is hosted on Azure. An outage could result in deaths, or reduced standard of care.
- jchw 4y ago
  I hope this isn't a ridiculous take, but even if Azure or any other cloud solution is used in healthcare, I would strongly hope that it isn't put in a position so critical to the point where it would literally lead to deaths if it were down for a while.
  - actionfromafar 4y ago
    What position would that be? Anything at a hospital can lead to death if inefficient or down.
    - jiggawatts 4y ago
      Not to mention that Azure is specifically targeting the health industry with offerings like confidential compute.
- Arnavion 4y ago
  Why are you changing the topic? We were talking about features, not outages.
  - jiggawatts 4y ago
    A lack of POSIX compliance generally means a lack of data integrity and basic correctness. In a file system that could result in data loss, data corruption, and the like.
    - Arnavion 4y ago
      And you knew those facts when you started using it. The whole context of this conversation was that users are complaining about those missing features on forums. So why are you trying to spin it as an outage or a surprise? It's a rhetorical question by the way. I already know the answer.
      - eska 4y ago
        That was not the context. The context was that people have to tell support about bugs but support can’t talk to developers, so you end up in a feature request forum.
        Arnavion 4y ago
        >That was not the context. Yes it was. >The context was that people have to tell support about bugs The word "bug" does not appear in the post. >but support can’t talk to developers, so you end up in a feature request forum. Yes, you want features so you get directed to a feature request forum. And let's not lose sight of the fact that this whole subthread arose because someone thinks that a cloud filesystem that doesn't preserve permissions bits is as evil as doctors killing people due to medical malpractice.

jiggawatts 4y ago

A significant chunk of our state’s Department of Health is hosted on Azure. An outage could result in deaths, or reduced standard of care.

jchw 4y ago
I hope this isn't a ridiculous take, but even if Azure or any other cloud solution is used in healthcare, I would strongly hope that it isn't put in a position so critical to the point where it would literally lead to deaths if it were down for a while.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  What position would that be? Anything at a hospital can lead to death if inefficient or down.
  - jiggawatts 4y ago
    Not to mention that Azure is specifically targeting the health industry with offerings like confidential compute.
Arnavion 4y ago
Why are you changing the topic? We were talking about features, not outages.
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  A lack of POSIX compliance generally means a lack of data integrity and basic correctness. In a file system that could result in data loss, data corruption, and the like.
  - Arnavion 4y ago
    And you knew those facts when you started using it. The whole context of this conversation was that users are complaining about those missing features on forums. So why are you trying to spin it as an outage or a surprise? It's a rhetorical question by the way. I already know the answer.
    - eska 4y ago
      That was not the context. The context was that people have to tell support about bugs but support can’t talk to developers, so you end up in a feature request forum.
      - Arnavion 4y ago
        >That was not the context. Yes it was. >The context was that people have to tell support about bugs The word "bug" does not appear in the post. >but support can’t talk to developers, so you end up in a feature request forum. Yes, you want features so you get directed to a feature request forum. And let's not lose sight of the fact that this whole subthread arose because someone thinks that a cloud filesystem that doesn't preserve permissions bits is as evil as doctors killing people due to medical malpractice.