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I was with up up until your statement: > Basically, if you want to have choice in a browser, don't use Apple products or a Microsoft OS. I get the "Apple prod
by deafpolygon 4y ago
I was with up up until your statement:
> Basically, if you want to have choice in a browser, don't use Apple products or a Microsoft OS.
I get the "Apple products" bit - Apple famously refuses to allow you to install your own browser engine under the hood on iOS. But Microsoft? Can you qualify that with some concrete examples?
- account-5 4y agoJust one example is forcing you to open links in edge regardless of your "default" browser: https://betanews.com/2021/05/07/force-web-links-open-in-default-browser/ https://betanews.com/2021/05/07/force-web-links-open-in-defa...
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- hardware2win 4y agoAs I see this is not about opening normal links This is about opening link targeted to edge "Copy the following test link: microsoft-edge:https://www.betanews.com https://www.betanews.com"
- em-bee 4y agoand exactly why should anyone be allowed to target their links to a specific browser instead of letting me use the browser of my choice?
- cowl 4y agoFor the majority of links there is no particular reason but for some specific cases where the link brings you to a App that the developer has build with that browser in mind it is useful. I want a way to force the opening of that app in the browser for which I have tested and don't want to receive support calls that the app is not working because you opened it in your obscure browser of choice.
- em-bee 4y agosuch apps should not exist. it's a throwback to the old internet explorer days. you will receive support calls from people who don't run windows and thus don't have edge
- LtWorf 4y agoWell it's how the mailto:blabla@blabla works.
- em-bee 4y agoyes, but the target for each of those is user-configurable. any request to another browser would go back to my preferred one. regardless, web-apps that depend on a specific browser should not exist.
- hardware2win 4y agoIf browsers had equal features support then yea
- em-bee 4y agothat's what the standards are for. any feature that is not implemented in all major browsers should be considered experimental. it might go away. it's fine to use such features for experiments, but they should not be put into production and relied upon. any differences in the implementation of the standard should be considered a bug. warning users about bugs is fine, but automatically redirecting me to some other browser that you deem working is not.
- hardware2win 4y agoUh what? If one browser laggs behind then the rest shouldnt deploy? This is crazy
- deafpolygon 4y agoIsn't that just using Application URL scheme? MacOS does this too.
- rudolph9 4y agoThe article talks specifically about the hoops Microsoft makes you jump through to install an alternative browser.
- izacus 4y agoMicrosoft somehow keeps "accidentally" resetting my default browser (they love to do that on quarterly updates", they just threw an Edge icon on my desktop that reappears on every reboot and their default browser choice dialog is harassing you really hard to avoid changing the default away from Edge. They're doing a huge amount of dark pattern stuff to avoid people from using other browsers these days.
- rezonant 4y agoI remember this happening to me I think 2 times back in the early days of Windows 10 and the initial push for Edge after getting rid of Internet Explorer. And yeah, they shouldn't do that. But since then, I've used Windows 10 and now use Windows 11 on multiple devices, and in my immediate friends and family they all use it too, and this has not happened at all.
- izacus 4y agoThey absolutely do it on major updates when you get the fullscreen "Oh, we need to update your account again" form. If you miss the tiny links "Please don't" in the corner, it'll reset the browser and default search provider.
- rezonant 4y agoI've never got such a screen on a feature update. Perhaps it's because I've got local accounts?