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It's perfectly possible to say when things happened at Alpha Centauri. Relativity doesn't really start messing with the notion of simultaneity until you're in a
by andrewflnr 4y ago
It's perfectly possible to say when things happened at Alpha Centauri. Relativity doesn't really start messing with the notion of simultaneity until you're in a different reference frame, i.e. moving at a different speed from the observer you're comparing yourself to. But if the only difference is distance, and you know the distance, you really can just run the speed of light backward and get a meaningful time in your own past for a distant event you're just now getting the light from. Think of it this way: since you're moving the same speed, there's no time dilation between your clocks, so you can safely line up ticks between your clock and a hypothetical clock far away on Alpha Centauri or whatever.
I assume things get a little more interesting at big redshifts, because you really are moving at relativistic speeds wrt what you're observing. I don't know off hand how they handle that. I will say I'm pretty sure the reason cosmologists tend to talk in redshifts is that redshifts can be pretty much directly measured and actual distance is... tricky. If you haven't already looked into the "cosmic distance ladder" you're likely to find it interesting.
Source: we covered this stuff in a college class. My math is very rusty, but I did do the math.
- galaxyLogic 4y ago> if the only difference is distance, and you know the distance, But are we not moving in relation to Alpha Centauri at a fabulous speed, because all the galaxies are moving one way or the other and rotating as is Earth moving around the Sun and rotating around its axis?
- andrewflnr 4y agoNo, Alpha Centauri and Sol are both in orbit, in the same direction, around the Milky Way. So I mean, the relative speed between us and Alpha Centauri is probably pretty big compared to a car, but it's just noise in our orbital velocities, which are still peanuts compared to c.