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Repeat after me: Diet determines size, exercise determines shape.

Fricken 4y ago
I'm going to repeat some things in the article for those who didn't read it: >For starters, exercise—at least the kind most of us do—is typically ineffective for weight loss >In studies where exercise has produced meaningful weight loss, participants burned at least 400 to 500 calories per session on five or more days a week The reason why I've always believed claims such as yours are bullshit is because I do the kind of exercise that produces meaningful weight loss when the scales tip too far in the wrong direction.
- vinyl7 4y ago
  Burning 400-500 calories per workout is an insane amount of calories. Just running on a treadmil for an hour only burns about 100 calories...maybe 150 if you're really pushing it.
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  - thatcantberight 4y ago
    This is factually incorrect. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/exercise/art-20050999 https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-...
  - hattmall 4y ago
    That's really slow going on a treadmill then. A mile is about 120 calories depending on your weight. A decent jogging pace should be at least 3-4 miles per hour. So adding a bit of incline it shouldn't be hard to hit 400 calories in an hour on a treadmill. I get about 200 per 20 minutes on the elliptical with a fairly relaxed pace and low resistance.
  - tsol 4y ago
    It adds up quick. I used to feel the same way. But I started going to the sauna-- one hour of that burns 500-600 calories. When you start off it's hard but exercise gets exponentially easier
  - veidr 4y ago
    You should look it up and edit your comment, because it is wrong. A smallish woman walking on a treadmill burns more than 300kcal/hour.
  - jxidjhdhdhdhfhf 4y ago
    No. As a general very rough rule of thumb, you can burn 100 cals per mile on foot. In an hour of jogging you can likely burn 600+ calories. Even walking, you can likely burn 300-400.
  - sw104 4y ago
    No. 100 calories/mile is the general estimate given for running for an average weight. More for overweight/obese people. Running on a treadmill for an hour would be anything from 6 miles (10km) to 12 miles (20km) for some of the very best runners, so 600 calories to 1200 calories.
- pengaru 4y ago
  Personally I exercise every day, and the more noticeable direct effects is I have an athletic physique when I don't prevent its visibility by eating too much shitty foods. But there's a second-order effect of the exercise, since it's mostly calisthenics; when my weight goes up, my performance immediately deteriorates. That mental negative feedback usually corrects my eating misbehavior within a day. It's far more weight-affecting than the calories burned, by changing my eating. The fact is though, generally speaking, you're not going to outrun a bad diet with exercise...
  - Fricken 4y ago
    I've been a rock climber for 4 years, and likewise, I've been preoccupied with keeping it down and never let it get out of control. I never used to stand on the scale everyday, but now I do. Before I started climbing I burnt off 25 pounds that I accumulated up after I broke my leg and spent 2 years largely sedentary. I did it using high intensity interval training: sprinting stairs, over a period of 10 weeks. I took this approach not based on any study, or advice but because in the past, when doing HIIT with a healthy body weight, it was hard to maintain a diet good enough to keep up.
rcme 4y ago
Your metabolic rate is determined by your body mass, so increasing mass increases metabolic rate. Obviously strength training is a huge component of muscle-based body mass. You can definitely work out, increase body mass, increase metabolism, and thus "look better" on the same diet.
watwut 4y ago
Meh, these slogans do more harm that good.
bar000n 4y ago
It’s a pity not to exercise once you get on well with not eating as much as an elephant (“dieting” for some) and start losing some wheight. It’s a pity I say because you become more agile with less wheight, you will run faster, cycle faster, be able to do chin-ups, get tired later, just enjoy.

I'm going to repeat some things in the article for those who didn't read it: >For starters, exercise—at least the kind most of us do—is typically ineffective for weight loss >In studies where exercise has produced meaningful weight loss, participants burned at least 400 to 500 calories per session on five or more days a week The reason why I've always believed claims such as yours are bullshit is because I do the kind of exercise that produces meaningful weight loss when the scales tip too far in the wrong direction.

vinyl7 4y ago
Burning 400-500 calories per workout is an insane amount of calories. Just running on a treadmil for an hour only burns about 100 calories...maybe 150 if you're really pushing it.
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- thatcantberight 4y ago
  This is factually incorrect. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/exercise/art-20050999 https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-...
- hattmall 4y ago
  That's really slow going on a treadmill then. A mile is about 120 calories depending on your weight. A decent jogging pace should be at least 3-4 miles per hour. So adding a bit of incline it shouldn't be hard to hit 400 calories in an hour on a treadmill. I get about 200 per 20 minutes on the elliptical with a fairly relaxed pace and low resistance.
- tsol 4y ago
  It adds up quick. I used to feel the same way. But I started going to the sauna-- one hour of that burns 500-600 calories. When you start off it's hard but exercise gets exponentially easier
- veidr 4y ago
  You should look it up and edit your comment, because it is wrong. A smallish woman walking on a treadmill burns more than 300kcal/hour.
- jxidjhdhdhdhfhf 4y ago
  No. As a general very rough rule of thumb, you can burn 100 cals per mile on foot. In an hour of jogging you can likely burn 600+ calories. Even walking, you can likely burn 300-400.
- sw104 4y ago
  No. 100 calories/mile is the general estimate given for running for an average weight. More for overweight/obese people. Running on a treadmill for an hour would be anything from 6 miles (10km) to 12 miles (20km) for some of the very best runners, so 600 calories to 1200 calories.
pengaru 4y ago
Personally I exercise every day, and the more noticeable direct effects is I have an athletic physique when I don't prevent its visibility by eating too much shitty foods. But there's a second-order effect of the exercise, since it's mostly calisthenics; when my weight goes up, my performance immediately deteriorates. That mental negative feedback usually corrects my eating misbehavior within a day. It's far more weight-affecting than the calories burned, by changing my eating. The fact is though, generally speaking, you're not going to outrun a bad diet with exercise...
- Fricken 4y ago
  I've been a rock climber for 4 years, and likewise, I've been preoccupied with keeping it down and never let it get out of control. I never used to stand on the scale everyday, but now I do. Before I started climbing I burnt off 25 pounds that I accumulated up after I broke my leg and spent 2 years largely sedentary. I did it using high intensity interval training: sprinting stairs, over a period of 10 weeks. I took this approach not based on any study, or advice but because in the past, when doing HIIT with a healthy body weight, it was hard to maintain a diet good enough to keep up.

rcme 4y ago

Your metabolic rate is determined by your body mass, so increasing mass increases metabolic rate. Obviously strength training is a huge component of muscle-based body mass. You can definitely work out, increase body mass, increase metabolism, and thus "look better" on the same diet.

watwut 4y ago

Meh, these slogans do more harm that good.

bar000n 4y ago

It’s a pity not to exercise once you get on well with not eating as much as an elephant (“dieting” for some) and start losing some wheight. It’s a pity I say because you become more agile with less wheight, you will run faster, cycle faster, be able to do chin-ups, get tired later, just enjoy.