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> How are these regents “hard left”? All Dem donors, all enacting policies at the schools that are widely considered "left" policies. > How did the regents so

> How are these regents “hard left”? All Dem donors, all enacting policies at the schools that are widely considered "left" policies. > How did the regents somehow attract “ a huge influx of Californians/Coloradans”? By catering strongly to out-of-state students (presumably because the schools make more of them). Both U of M and MSU are at all time high out-of-state enrollment. > Aren’t cost of living issues a local issue around these campuses, at least as far as housing goes? Montana can’t be short on space… Yes. What you aren't considering is that Montana is big enough that if you don't live in the local valleys, you can't go to the school. The commutes are too long and too treacherous from outside the valleys. By taking both record freshman classes for the last few years, and record out of state students, plus the pandemic meaning Californians fleeing California anyways, cost of living in Bozeman and Missoula has skyrocketed, and campus housing is impossible to get. Also, due too Montana's low population, tax revenue is low, money is especiay scarce, and now the local, taxpayer colleges are completely out of reach for most Montanans. I cannot describe with words how different the college towns like Bozeman and Missoula are from most of the state, which are places like Harlowtown or Havre. They are so unbelievably different, they might as well be on different planets. > And what does any of that have to do with the bill in question? The bill is about k-12 education. It's aimed specifically at the Montana Federation of Public Employees, and the Board, as described in the article: >A legal note from legislative staff says the bill could overstep the Board of Public Education’s constitutional authority to oversee schools in the state. It is another front to fight this war that is attempting to erode the Board's power.

themitigating 4y ago
"All Dem donors, all enacting policies at the schools that are widely considered "left" policies." What policies?
- COGlory 4y ago
  I have comment further down the thread discussing it. Biggest one is suing to stop a ballot initiative over guns.
  - themitigating 4y ago
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    - dang 4y ago
      Crossing into personal attack is not ok and will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If someone is wrong, the thing to do is to patiently and respectfully explain how they are wrong, without swipes, name-calling, or cheap shots. Your posts in this thread were much too aggressive. We've had to ask you not to do this more than once in the past. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - COGlory 4y ago
      > Doesn't blocking scientific theory affect a large amount of people and not the head of this regents board? Yes. The goal of the legislature is to erode authority of that section of the state constitution. >Should the government be used to punish people you disagree with? Even if its just for show? Absolutely not. That includes actions taken by the Board of Regents in direct opposition to public ballot initiatives. >You're an engineer, I assume this because you're on Hackernews, but you wrote paragraph after paragraph defending this obscenely stupid bill. I know it hasn't gone anywhere and probably won't but the mere existence of this is shocking I'm a PhD research scientist at one of the big public institutions in Montana. >Telling us that this internal state dispute is a justification for something like this is just too much. You also speak about Representatives Emrich having no choice as if he some animal. This is a person who people voted for in your state. I never say it's justified, just predictable. The Board acted unilaterally and in opposition to public ballot measures. The legislature is responding exactly how it was predicted. Everyone loses. Emrich having no choice I'm not sure what you mean. I'm saying this bill would not have been submitted if the legislature didn't have an axe to grind against the Board. Perhaps you misunderstood the terminology "lose-lose"? >What's wrong with you Not sure why this is phrased as a question, since you apparently just explained to me in ample detail what is wrong with me.
      - themitigating 4y ago

themitigating 4y ago

"All Dem donors, all enacting policies at the schools that are widely considered "left" policies." What policies?

COGlory 4y ago
I have comment further down the thread discussing it. Biggest one is suing to stop a ballot initiative over guns.
- themitigating 4y ago
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  - dang 4y ago
    Crossing into personal attack is not ok and will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If someone is wrong, the thing to do is to patiently and respectfully explain how they are wrong, without swipes, name-calling, or cheap shots. Your posts in this thread were much too aggressive. We've had to ask you not to do this more than once in the past. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - COGlory 4y ago
    > Doesn't blocking scientific theory affect a large amount of people and not the head of this regents board? Yes. The goal of the legislature is to erode authority of that section of the state constitution. >Should the government be used to punish people you disagree with? Even if its just for show? Absolutely not. That includes actions taken by the Board of Regents in direct opposition to public ballot initiatives. >You're an engineer, I assume this because you're on Hackernews, but you wrote paragraph after paragraph defending this obscenely stupid bill. I know it hasn't gone anywhere and probably won't but the mere existence of this is shocking I'm a PhD research scientist at one of the big public institutions in Montana. >Telling us that this internal state dispute is a justification for something like this is just too much. You also speak about Representatives Emrich having no choice as if he some animal. This is a person who people voted for in your state. I never say it's justified, just predictable. The Board acted unilaterally and in opposition to public ballot measures. The legislature is responding exactly how it was predicted. Everyone loses. Emrich having no choice I'm not sure what you mean. I'm saying this bill would not have been submitted if the legislature didn't have an axe to grind against the Board. Perhaps you misunderstood the terminology "lose-lose"? >What's wrong with you Not sure why this is phrased as a question, since you apparently just explained to me in ample detail what is wrong with me.
    - themitigating 4y ago