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Intelligence is not in AI, and is not likely to end up there in the lifetime of anyone old enough to read this on their own.
by ElfinTrousers 4y ago
Intelligence is not in AI, and is not likely to end up there in the lifetime of anyone old enough to read this on their own.
- yieldcrv 4y agoAI’s hallucinations are not dissimilar enough from intelligence for me to make a distinctive standard
- jvanderbot 4y agoYou'd be surprised what you'd hear, if you could hear inside someone's head. I bet it's not at all unlike an AI, that "inner monologue".
- tsol 4y agoIt some ways it's like in the brain there's a '(intelligent) random noise generator' that just throws out ideas and associations, and an 'identifier' that highlights ideas that are useful. Just keep this running all day and you're bound to get some useful ideas just through trial and error.
- jvanderbot 4y agoThis is why I think going for a walk is so helpful to thinking, it's like jiggling the mouse when generating crypto keys: it ups the entropy
- dukeofdoom 4y agoWell you're adding a human to the equation at every step with AI. Its not like AI are conscious on their own, the way lets say dogs can be.
- epgui 4y agoHave you ever seen what happens to humans when left on their own in isolation? It’s not particularly evocative of intelligence.
- dukeofdoom 4y agoWhat I meant by it is that AI is trained on human language, and requires humans to feed it information and electrical power, and currently need to interact with it. In its current state AI is tapping into human consciousness, so it can mimic it in some ways. Computer AI is not really a living entity, more like a self adjusting mathematical equation. Just like computer game, if there's no one to play it, and a brain to process it, it doesn't really exist beyond 0's and 1s. Dog's don't require humans at all to live, they would just revert back to their lives as wolves should humans disappeared.
- epgui 4y agoHave you ever interacted with a dog that has never been in contact with a human, or with other socialized dogs? Learning is a deeply social activity.
- gitfan86 4y agoAt one point people said that computers could never beat a human at chess, then it was GO, now it is reasoning, then it will be intelligence.
- Jensson 4y agoThe methods they used then couldn't, each next step required a new way of approaching the problem.
- zetalyrae 4y agoAnd we used to only have to move the goal-posts every decade. Now we move them every week. Which implies that the current methods may be converging to intelligence.
- taneq 4y agoAh no, that last one's different. Chess, or Go, or reasoning, they're all things a computer can do. If a computer can do it, though, clearly it doesn't require intelligence because intelligence is Doing Things Computers Can't Do.
- kerpotgh 4y ago[dead]
- brookst 4y agoAre you distinguishing between intelligence and consciousness?
- epgui 4y agoAre you defining consciousness?
- ElfinTrousers 4y agoNo, but then again, AI systems in the year 2023 have neither, and I do not expect to see that change in the years I have left.
- brookst 4y agoI don't expect AI to be conscious in my lifetime. I think AI is already intelligent. Not all intelligence is conscious; not all consciousness is intelligent.
- grantcas 4y ago[dead]