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it sounds plausible, I lived there and visit every once in a while. there is an influx of people for sure (just go check Wikipedia population numbers, esp. for

it sounds plausible, I lived there and visit every once in a while. there is an influx of people for sure (just go check Wikipedia population numbers, esp. for towns mentioned) and it has nothing to do with the regents (and I don't think the parent said that) habitable space, at least in bozeman, is very tight because you're bounded by the Gallatin Valley, everything outside has little to none infrastructure to accommodate any meaningful incoming number of people, same situation as the SFBA - there is plenty of cheap space in central valley but people pay 1.5m+ to live right in sf. don't have enough info to vouch for the whole story, but sounds believable

duxup 4y ago
I’m not sure any population increase really means any of the other post’s story is true. Rural populations have been moving to suburban size towns for a long time now.
- twelve40 4y ago
  you can look up some links to back up your claim that this Bozeman movement is from rural places, but I really doubt that's the case for this one.
  - duxup 4y ago
    I’m not claiming anything. Another person seemed to claim they were from CA and CO…. somehow due to the action of some regents… without anything to backup the whole story. I’m saying that any population increase doesn’t support any given theory. There can be all sorts of reasons for population changes.
    - COGlory 4y ago
      I never claim it's due to the Regents, although school policies have probably contributed. But if you go back and read my comment, you will see I don't credit the regents with increasing the population of the college towns, but rather paint the picture that the college towns are growing less accessible to Montanans, and that there's some resentment over that which is being expressed by the legislature.
      - duxup 4y ago
        > although school policies have probably contributed Like what?
        COGlory 4y ago
        Increasing enrollment, and the fraction of students from out of state. Both have increased quite a bit.
reducesuffering 4y ago
Have you looked at Gallatin County on a map? https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7139136,-111.2522263,97391m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4 https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7139136,-111.2522263,97391m/... It's nothing like SFBA, there are miles and miles of open land inside Gallatin Valley, all around Belgrade, Four Corners, and Manhattan. If you meant that it's: >everything outside [Bozeman] has little to none infrastructure to accommodate any meaningful incoming number of people Then they can build it, because there is plenty of land. Outside SFBA in Central Valley, they are building tons in Tracy and Manteca, and that's separated by long unbuildable terrain, unlike west of Bozeman.
- twelve40 4y ago
  sure. a Manteca property is still less desirable than SF or a peninsula one, even though sfba is not dense by any means. That's not my fault.

duxup 4y ago

I’m not sure any population increase really means any of the other post’s story is true. Rural populations have been moving to suburban size towns for a long time now.

twelve40 4y ago
you can look up some links to back up your claim that this Bozeman movement is from rural places, but I really doubt that's the case for this one.
- duxup 4y ago
  I’m not claiming anything. Another person seemed to claim they were from CA and CO…. somehow due to the action of some regents… without anything to backup the whole story. I’m saying that any population increase doesn’t support any given theory. There can be all sorts of reasons for population changes.
  - COGlory 4y ago
    I never claim it's due to the Regents, although school policies have probably contributed. But if you go back and read my comment, you will see I don't credit the regents with increasing the population of the college towns, but rather paint the picture that the college towns are growing less accessible to Montanans, and that there's some resentment over that which is being expressed by the legislature.
    - duxup 4y ago
      > although school policies have probably contributed Like what?
      - COGlory 4y ago
        Increasing enrollment, and the fraction of students from out of state. Both have increased quite a bit.

reducesuffering 4y ago

Have you looked at Gallatin County on a map? https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7139136,-111.2522263,97391m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4 https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7139136,-111.2522263,97391m/... It's nothing like SFBA, there are miles and miles of open land inside Gallatin Valley, all around Belgrade, Four Corners, and Manhattan. If you meant that it's: >everything outside [Bozeman] has little to none infrastructure to accommodate any meaningful incoming number of people Then they can build it, because there is plenty of land. Outside SFBA in Central Valley, they are building tons in Tracy and Manteca, and that's separated by long unbuildable terrain, unlike west of Bozeman.

twelve40 4y ago
sure. a Manteca property is still less desirable than SF or a peninsula one, even though sfba is not dense by any means. That's not my fault.