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KDE nowadays is buggy as hell and quite a lot overrated as a desktop environment, it has bugs everywhere in its main components: Plasma, Dolphin, Kwin. And that

KDE nowadays is buggy as hell and quite a lot overrated as a desktop environment, it has bugs everywhere in its main components: Plasma, Dolphin, Kwin. And that's just the X11 version. The Wayland Plasma thing isn't really as mature software as you could say about Gnome and other Wayland software. Somewhere in the dev community behind KDE most devs are chasing shinny new things and apparently won't botter to debug spagetti legacy code (the stuff behind 80% of the desktop environment), so serious bugs are a daily thing, even more after upgrades, because of regressions everywhere. KDE 5.xx (and probably 6.xx, because it is mostly 5.xx code), IMHO is quite now on pair with the infamous version 4 (buggy as hell as well). The "easy no memory" thing isn't quite right neither, IF the apps, components, whatever run without bugs - unlikely, even for common use cases - that will happen, but more often than not, you'll find your CPU/RAM in really bad shape because some misterious thing - KDE component, library, even the window manager itself - it just has failed somehow. Or maybe your KDE just freezes over, out of the blue, because no good reason, Plasma could just dissappear in the middle of a rutine desktop task (closing/opening a video, taking a look at the preview window in the panel, etc.). so, you could take this words as a rant, their not. They're just experience of maybe the last two, three years with KDE. And boy, lots of users could write the very same things.

TkTech 4y ago
As a counterpoint to this, I've had the KDE DE running for myself (8+ hours a day), my wife, and my grandparents, running on arch for more than 3 years. We've encountered no serious or really even minor bugs in that time. My only active issue is where notifications popping up when using the official Nvidia driver causes render lag for a second. There was one bug in a KDE application, KDE connect, where it would crash when loading contacts from the phone. But it's open source, so I just fixed it, https://tkte.ch/articles/2021/09/06/KDE-Connect.html https://tkte.ch/articles/2021/09/06/KDE-Connect.html. I'm not disagreeing with the parent post. I'm sure they've encountered lots of bugs. I'm just trying to show that your milage may vary, and for many users KDE just works.
- jwrallie 4y ago
  I can also vouch for Plasma. Today I checked the uptime of my computer, and it is doing 16 days running Kubuntu with no issues, and it could be months if I was not rebooting to get system updates. From my personal usage perspective the stability is somehow like this: ios > Gnome > Plasma > Windows = Android Considering that both Google and Microsoft platforms are giving me more issues, I would say that Plasma (and Gnome) are doing quite well. And not to speak of the actual usability, for desktop I'm yet to find something better than Plasma (I don't use macOS nowadays, but I had a great time back when I used Tiger and Leopard).
- jlpcsl 4y ago
  Same here, running my KDE Plasma on computers for days (especially work one) and no issues encountered. Can't remember the last time, except when Plasma was freezing because of a bug in Mesa3D graphic drivers update. I'm using OpenSUSE Tumblweed on most computers and KDE Neon on the work laptop. And graphics card is AMD Radeon or integrated Intel on laptop. I hear that a lot of bugs can be caused by using Nvidia graphics, but I can not say anything about this as I have always used AMD/Intel because they have proper opensource drivers.
pezezin 4y ago
I have used KDE daily since I started with Linux 20 years ago. In fact, I'm typing this reply very from Plasma on OpenSuse Tumbleweed. I haven't seen any of those bugs that you mention. Maybe your installation is somehow broken?
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  Sorry but you must be running some magic version of KDE. I also run into the same issues above.
  - pezezin 4y ago
    At my workplace I moved almost 30 computers from Gnome to KDE, because we were fed up with Gnome's "simplicity", and nobody has complaint anymore. Not a single bug in three years. Maybe you are just unlucky?
deafpolygon 4y ago
I've brought this up and always some people coming out of the woodworks saying "OH I have had ZERO problems with KDE." I'm thinking, You don't see your plasma taskbar disappearing and coming back? OR copying files bringing your system to your knees? Copying 1+GB files just freeze the desktop entirely to the point where I've just gotten in the habit of opening Konsole and doing cp / rsync instead. How about using Kate, and can't really get to any of the dropdown menu because a theme you have is one pixel off and causing the menu to get deselected? It's glitchy! Since KDE4 it feels like the solution to bugs is just push out the next version as fast as possible and hope it disappears. Right now they are pushing out 6.xx and no longer prioritizing fixing bugs for 5.xx anymore. I put up with a multi-monitor bug for months, where none of the KDE native applications will remember it's size or position if you resize them on any monitor that isn't your left-most one. Posted a bug report, filed as duplicate. Apparently one of the devs know what the issue is. The answer was "I'll take a look at it when I get get time to pull my second monitor out." I was encouraged to make a donation by someone else, see if that helps get some traction and the ball rolling on something I personally need fixed. /smh

TkTech 4y ago

As a counterpoint to this, I've had the KDE DE running for myself (8+ hours a day), my wife, and my grandparents, running on arch for more than 3 years. We've encountered no serious or really even minor bugs in that time. My only active issue is where notifications popping up when using the official Nvidia driver causes render lag for a second. There was one bug in a KDE application, KDE connect, where it would crash when loading contacts from the phone. But it's open source, so I just fixed it, https://tkte.ch/articles/2021/09/06/KDE-Connect.html https://tkte.ch/articles/2021/09/06/KDE-Connect.html. I'm not disagreeing with the parent post. I'm sure they've encountered lots of bugs. I'm just trying to show that your milage may vary, and for many users KDE just works.

jwrallie 4y ago
I can also vouch for Plasma. Today I checked the uptime of my computer, and it is doing 16 days running Kubuntu with no issues, and it could be months if I was not rebooting to get system updates. From my personal usage perspective the stability is somehow like this: ios > Gnome > Plasma > Windows = Android Considering that both Google and Microsoft platforms are giving me more issues, I would say that Plasma (and Gnome) are doing quite well. And not to speak of the actual usability, for desktop I'm yet to find something better than Plasma (I don't use macOS nowadays, but I had a great time back when I used Tiger and Leopard).
jlpcsl 4y ago
Same here, running my KDE Plasma on computers for days (especially work one) and no issues encountered. Can't remember the last time, except when Plasma was freezing because of a bug in Mesa3D graphic drivers update. I'm using OpenSUSE Tumblweed on most computers and KDE Neon on the work laptop. And graphics card is AMD Radeon or integrated Intel on laptop. I hear that a lot of bugs can be caused by using Nvidia graphics, but I can not say anything about this as I have always used AMD/Intel because they have proper opensource drivers.

pezezin 4y ago

I have used KDE daily since I started with Linux 20 years ago. In fact, I'm typing this reply very from Plasma on OpenSuse Tumbleweed. I haven't seen any of those bugs that you mention. Maybe your installation is somehow broken?

deafpolygon 4y ago
Sorry but you must be running some magic version of KDE. I also run into the same issues above.
- pezezin 4y ago
  At my workplace I moved almost 30 computers from Gnome to KDE, because we were fed up with Gnome's "simplicity", and nobody has complaint anymore. Not a single bug in three years. Maybe you are just unlucky?

deafpolygon 4y ago

I've brought this up and always some people coming out of the woodworks saying "OH I have had ZERO problems with KDE." I'm thinking, You don't see your plasma taskbar disappearing and coming back? OR copying files bringing your system to your knees? Copying 1+GB files just freeze the desktop entirely to the point where I've just gotten in the habit of opening Konsole and doing cp / rsync instead. How about using Kate, and can't really get to any of the dropdown menu because a theme you have is one pixel off and causing the menu to get deselected? It's glitchy! Since KDE4 it feels like the solution to bugs is just push out the next version as fast as possible and hope it disappears. Right now they are pushing out 6.xx and no longer prioritizing fixing bugs for 5.xx anymore. I put up with a multi-monitor bug for months, where none of the KDE native applications will remember it's size or position if you resize them on any monitor that isn't your left-most one. Posted a bug report, filed as duplicate. Apparently one of the devs know what the issue is. The answer was "I'll take a look at it when I get get time to pull my second monitor out." I was encouraged to make a donation by someone else, see if that helps get some traction and the ball rolling on something I personally need fixed. /smh