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> I'm not talking about college at all Then I'm honestly confused why you're posting on this article. Do you care at all about the topic or do you just pattern

> I'm not talking about college at all Then I'm honestly confused why you're posting on this article. Do you care at all about the topic or do you just pattern match on "DEI" and start spitting out next-tokens? It's especially maddening that "lol I'm not talking about college" is the hot take from the top-voted comment on this story. Speaks volumes to the quality of HN discourse on this topic: just a bunch of scared nonsense. > telling kids about the gays So what? I was told the gays are evil as a kid and I turned out okay. The gays are okay. If telling the kids that the gays are okay is some sort of existential threat to you then I'm not sure what to say. > DEI that I have experienced in the work place is very aggressively anti white Not gonna lie, I see this a lot and "my HR training was dumb as shit" is a weird basis for political ideology. My anti-phishing training was patronizing as fuck and poorly executed, but I'm not about to use that as a basis for an argument to defund the DoD or whatever. Also, sounds like you work in weird places. At the universities I worked at the older profs made occasional comments about the tits and asses of undergraduate students, talked about homosexual faculty in way that made even us white straight males uncomfortable, etc. Whatever woke nonsense you think is happening at universities, they're absolutely unregulated compared to most corporate environments and have nothing resembling the sanitary corporate training -- on DEI or a million other things -- that I have to do every year.

wonderwonder 4y ago
"Then I'm honestly confused why you're posting on this article" Because I want to. I mentioned nothing about college in the original comment that you replied to. I pattern matched :) Judging by the number of responses to my post, other people wanted to discuss it from my perspective as well. Thats one of the nice things about HN, the open, unrestricted flow of conversation I know that gays are ok. I have absolutely nothing against gay people and am very pro gay marriage. I just dont think its an appropriate topic for elementary school. I very much do have an issue with transexuality being pushed as an option in schools though and I think that its dangerous and results in kids being confused and mistakenly thinking they may be trans. I feel for trans people and wish them nothing but happiness. I just dont want anyone telling my kids its an option as its a much harder life. "Not gonna lie, I see this a lot and "my HR training was dumb as shit" is a weird basis for political ideology" I think it goes a little deeper than that and I think you are intentionally downplaying it. Work is one of the cornerstones of most peoples lives. Many people spend more time there than with their kids. If they work in a place where they are told they are the problem thats going to lead to some issues.
- thwayunion 4y ago
  > I just dont think its an appropriate topic for elementary school. I've never understood what this means. Is talking about another student's two Daddies not okay? Teacher talking about their same-sex spouse? Do people imagine they're passing out porn to second graders? Don't get it. Sounds like stupid bullshit. Literally worse than HR DEI training slide decks tbh. > I very much do have an issue with transexuality being pushed as an option in schools Your sons aren't going to be unemployed because of DEI essays. Schools "pushing transexuality" is also some stupid bullshit meant to make people feel scared and capture eyeballs.
  - wonderwonder 4y ago
    Going to go out on a limb and assume you don't have kids? Part of being a parent is pushing back on things that you perceive as a long term risk to the happiness of your kids as well as a danger to your role as the ultimate decider for your kids while they are young. California openly has policies where they lie to parents of transexual children, keeping secrets from them. This is anathema to me. Even the potential of something like this happening in my kids school is enough for me to vote against it. Regarding the two daddies comment, I have no issue with my kids knowing child X has 2 dads or whatever. Its the pushing of gay pride events, etc. Its making it seem like its a desirable trait that perhaps a kid should experiment with that I don't like. If my kid is gay/trans then so be it, I love them the same. I just don't want them thinking they are based on in school propaganda. Now you may posit that its all in my head but its also in the head of many many other people. In addition there are very real policies in states like California that indicate its not all in my head. End of the day the thing I am most against is schools conspiring to withhold information from parents.

wonderwonder 4y ago

"Then I'm honestly confused why you're posting on this article" Because I want to. I mentioned nothing about college in the original comment that you replied to. I pattern matched :) Judging by the number of responses to my post, other people wanted to discuss it from my perspective as well. Thats one of the nice things about HN, the open, unrestricted flow of conversation I know that gays are ok. I have absolutely nothing against gay people and am very pro gay marriage. I just dont think its an appropriate topic for elementary school. I very much do have an issue with transexuality being pushed as an option in schools though and I think that its dangerous and results in kids being confused and mistakenly thinking they may be trans. I feel for trans people and wish them nothing but happiness. I just dont want anyone telling my kids its an option as its a much harder life. "Not gonna lie, I see this a lot and "my HR training was dumb as shit" is a weird basis for political ideology" I think it goes a little deeper than that and I think you are intentionally downplaying it. Work is one of the cornerstones of most peoples lives. Many people spend more time there than with their kids. If they work in a place where they are told they are the problem thats going to lead to some issues.

thwayunion 4y ago
> I just dont think its an appropriate topic for elementary school. I've never understood what this means. Is talking about another student's two Daddies not okay? Teacher talking about their same-sex spouse? Do people imagine they're passing out porn to second graders? Don't get it. Sounds like stupid bullshit. Literally worse than HR DEI training slide decks tbh. > I very much do have an issue with transexuality being pushed as an option in schools Your sons aren't going to be unemployed because of DEI essays. Schools "pushing transexuality" is also some stupid bullshit meant to make people feel scared and capture eyeballs.
- wonderwonder 4y ago
  Going to go out on a limb and assume you don't have kids? Part of being a parent is pushing back on things that you perceive as a long term risk to the happiness of your kids as well as a danger to your role as the ultimate decider for your kids while they are young. California openly has policies where they lie to parents of transexual children, keeping secrets from them. This is anathema to me. Even the potential of something like this happening in my kids school is enough for me to vote against it. Regarding the two daddies comment, I have no issue with my kids knowing child X has 2 dads or whatever. Its the pushing of gay pride events, etc. Its making it seem like its a desirable trait that perhaps a kid should experiment with that I don't like. If my kid is gay/trans then so be it, I love them the same. I just don't want them thinking they are based on in school propaganda. Now you may posit that its all in my head but its also in the head of many many other people. In addition there are very real policies in states like California that indicate its not all in my head. End of the day the thing I am most against is schools conspiring to withhold information from parents.