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- Web Bluetooth. - Web USB - Web NFC - Web Notifications - Web Midi - Offline Storage - Gryo, Accelerometer, Magneto, Proximity - Vibration feedback

swamp40 4y ago
I seriously doubt Apple will ever allow web browsers direct control of their hardware.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  What if it's my hardware?
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    You don't own Apple products, they own you.
- monocasa 4y ago
  A lot of that is already exposed to developers.
  - swamp40 4y ago
    Yes, but each app is approved by Apple before being put on the App store. Direct BLE and NFC control have lots of spoofing "dangers" and privacy issues.
- randyrand 4y ago
  The web browser is just an app (possibly side loaded). Apps already have all of this.
pertymcpert 4y ago
Just write an app, Jesus.
- RockRobotRock 4y ago
  Just give Apple 30% of your money for something that's essentially just a website, great idea!
  - Spivak 4y ago
    Good lord people really don't get how Apple makes money. Have you ever wondered why apps like Jira, Github, or Notion aren't loudly complaining about the 30% App Store fees? It's because they don't pay them. How? By not actually selling the service in the app. If all you want is an app for your users to use, you won't pay a dime outside of the developer fee. If you want people to discover your app in the app store, download it, and then pay you then it's a 30% cut.
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- alerighi 4y ago
  Why if you can do that in a browser? Isn't much simpler? I don't want to install an app for every stupid thing. It's just simper to open the browser at a particular URL. The browser is a runtime environment capable (with PWA, that are not supported on iOS) of doing 95% of things a native app can do with decent performance without needing the user to install anything at all. Anyway nowadays apps are even built with web technologies (such as React Native), would just be simpler to have only the web version, a single codebase that can be used with an iOS device, an Android device, a PC, a smartwatch, a TV, whatever. Distributing an app is a pain, especially for iOS, you have to submit it for review, Apple has to approve it, you cannot do certain things, why? I get that on Android is simpler, just install the APK and done, but unfortunately there are a ton of iOS devices out there.
  - palata 4y ago
    Many native apps are better. Of course web people like to use web tech for everything. I like native mobile (kotlin/swift) a lot better for mobile dev.
mr_toad 4y ago
And on the downside a malicious browser could ignore same origin policy and other security measures.
dmitriid 4y ago
Chrome-only non-standards that even Mozilla is against. Oh. And Web Midi? The moment Firefox implemented it they discovered its used for fingerprinting, and Chrome allows it by default: https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931 https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931

swamp40 4y ago

I seriously doubt Apple will ever allow web browsers direct control of their hardware.

smoldesu 4y ago
What if it's my hardware?
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  You don't own Apple products, they own you.
monocasa 4y ago
A lot of that is already exposed to developers.
- swamp40 4y ago
  Yes, but each app is approved by Apple before being put on the App store. Direct BLE and NFC control have lots of spoofing "dangers" and privacy issues.
randyrand 4y ago
The web browser is just an app (possibly side loaded). Apps already have all of this.

pertymcpert 4y ago

Just write an app, Jesus.

RockRobotRock 4y ago
Just give Apple 30% of your money for something that's essentially just a website, great idea!
- Spivak 4y ago
  Good lord people really don't get how Apple makes money. Have you ever wondered why apps like Jira, Github, or Notion aren't loudly complaining about the 30% App Store fees? It's because they don't pay them. How? By not actually selling the service in the app. If all you want is an app for your users to use, you won't pay a dime outside of the developer fee. If you want people to discover your app in the app store, download it, and then pay you then it's a 30% cut.
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alerighi 4y ago
Why if you can do that in a browser? Isn't much simpler? I don't want to install an app for every stupid thing. It's just simper to open the browser at a particular URL. The browser is a runtime environment capable (with PWA, that are not supported on iOS) of doing 95% of things a native app can do with decent performance without needing the user to install anything at all. Anyway nowadays apps are even built with web technologies (such as React Native), would just be simpler to have only the web version, a single codebase that can be used with an iOS device, an Android device, a PC, a smartwatch, a TV, whatever. Distributing an app is a pain, especially for iOS, you have to submit it for review, Apple has to approve it, you cannot do certain things, why? I get that on Android is simpler, just install the APK and done, but unfortunately there are a ton of iOS devices out there.
- palata 4y ago
  Many native apps are better. Of course web people like to use web tech for everything. I like native mobile (kotlin/swift) a lot better for mobile dev.

mr_toad 4y ago

And on the downside a malicious browser could ignore same origin policy and other security measures.

dmitriid 4y ago

Chrome-only non-standards that even Mozilla is against. Oh. And Web Midi? The moment Firefox implemented it they discovered its used for fingerprinting, and Chrome allows it by default: https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931 https://twitter.com/denschub/status/1582730985778556931