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This is an interesting move in the context of the recent kerfuffle around Gitea - context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33749757 https://news.ycombinato

This is an interesting move in the context of the recent kerfuffle around Gitea - context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33749757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33749757 I wonder whether this was part of discussion on the migrating within the Blender team or whether their migration just started before the Gitea org-change. --- Off-topic but it's also funny that the Phabricator fork is Phorge & the Gitea fork is Forgejo...

azeemba 4y ago
The decision to move to gitea was made before that announcement. I wonder if gitea decided to become a company after they saw the interest from Blender. I know blender folks were asking questions about the long term future of the project. For reference, here are threads asking for proposals on solutions to consider and announcement of gitea being picked: - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-call-for-comments-and-participation/23451 https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-call-for... - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-choice-for-gitea-reasons-and-timeline/24896 https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-choice-f...
RamblingCTO 4y ago
On the topic of gitea, I rummaged through the thread and it seems they want to make a decision in the first months of this year. I'm not sure these people are fit to run such a platform if they don't understand the problem with "we'll ban code doing xyz because we don't like it" for such a project. I was really looking forward to codeberg, but I also have a bunch of infosec stuff in my repos, including malware/PoC's etc. but I don't want to risk getting banned. We need something like self-hosted gitea plus fediverse-driven socials mimicking github. /edit: there is actually work being done by forgefed.org, radicle.xyz and forgejo is implementing federation here: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59 https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59
- lucideer 4y ago
  The comments on codeberg aren't really relevant in this thread - codeberg is a hosting platform, any policies they implemented would apply to accounts on their platform only, not to self-hosting users of gitea/forgejo/whichever. That said, as long as the underlying software is self-hostable, I actually think platforms taking a curatorial approach is pretty cool. E.g. Mastodon instances do this with moderation, but also make it easy to have multiple accounts on different instances for different purposes. I already do this with git hosts so I can see it working well.
  - RamblingCTO 4y ago
    Well, as far as I understand, the fork forgejo is done by codeberg [1] so I see it as relevant. Wasn't that the commotion you meant? But yeah I agree, federated gitea/forgejo and then I wouldn't care about their ToS because I could roll my own. Nowadays code-hosting is so social that I would declare it even a social network in a kind of way. Really looking forward to the federation of gitea/forgejo! > I already do this with git hosts so I can see it working well. Can you elaborate? [1] https://blog.codeberg.org/codeberg-launches-forgejo.html https://blog.codeberg.org/codeberg-launches-forgejo.html
    - lucideer 4y ago
      > Well, as far as I understand, the fork forgejo is done by codeberg [1] so I see it as relevant. Wasn't that the commotion you meant? Forgejo was started independent of Codeberg - Codeberg later became the project's "custodian". From the Forgejo site: > we are very proud that Codeberg e.V. has decided to become our project’s custodian. Codeberg e.V. is a non-profit organization with a stellar reputation, that is dedicated to the success of the Free Software movement. They provide software development services to FOSS projects at Codeberg.org. They are rapidly growing and hosting more than 50,000 code repositories for about 40,000 people. Not only will Codeberg take care of the Forgejo domain names and trademarks, but the organization will use Forgejo as the basis for their own services, instead of Gitea. Full post at: https://forgejo.org/2022-12-15-hello-forgejo/ https://forgejo.org/2022-12-15-hello-forgejo/ > Can you elaborate? I just mean that Git is a distributed model that supports multiple remotes. Having different hosts for different things is not a use-case that's unsupported or difficult with the current software.

azeemba 4y ago

The decision to move to gitea was made before that announcement. I wonder if gitea decided to become a company after they saw the interest from Blender. I know blender folks were asking questions about the long term future of the project. For reference, here are threads asking for proposals on solutions to consider and announcement of gitea being picked: - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-call-for-comments-and-participation/23451 https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-call-for... - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-choice-for-gitea-reasons-and-timeline/24896 https://devtalk.blender.org/t/developer-blender-org-choice-f...

RamblingCTO 4y ago

On the topic of gitea, I rummaged through the thread and it seems they want to make a decision in the first months of this year. I'm not sure these people are fit to run such a platform if they don't understand the problem with "we'll ban code doing xyz because we don't like it" for such a project. I was really looking forward to codeberg, but I also have a bunch of infosec stuff in my repos, including malware/PoC's etc. but I don't want to risk getting banned. We need something like self-hosted gitea plus fediverse-driven socials mimicking github. /edit: there is actually work being done by forgefed.org, radicle.xyz and forgejo is implementing federation here: https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59 https://codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59

lucideer 4y ago
The comments on codeberg aren't really relevant in this thread - codeberg is a hosting platform, any policies they implemented would apply to accounts on their platform only, not to self-hosting users of gitea/forgejo/whichever. That said, as long as the underlying software is self-hostable, I actually think platforms taking a curatorial approach is pretty cool. E.g. Mastodon instances do this with moderation, but also make it easy to have multiple accounts on different instances for different purposes. I already do this with git hosts so I can see it working well.
- RamblingCTO 4y ago
  Well, as far as I understand, the fork forgejo is done by codeberg [1] so I see it as relevant. Wasn't that the commotion you meant? But yeah I agree, federated gitea/forgejo and then I wouldn't care about their ToS because I could roll my own. Nowadays code-hosting is so social that I would declare it even a social network in a kind of way. Really looking forward to the federation of gitea/forgejo! > I already do this with git hosts so I can see it working well. Can you elaborate? [1] https://blog.codeberg.org/codeberg-launches-forgejo.html https://blog.codeberg.org/codeberg-launches-forgejo.html
  - lucideer 4y ago
    > Well, as far as I understand, the fork forgejo is done by codeberg [1] so I see it as relevant. Wasn't that the commotion you meant? Forgejo was started independent of Codeberg - Codeberg later became the project's "custodian". From the Forgejo site: > we are very proud that Codeberg e.V. has decided to become our project’s custodian. Codeberg e.V. is a non-profit organization with a stellar reputation, that is dedicated to the success of the Free Software movement. They provide software development services to FOSS projects at Codeberg.org. They are rapidly growing and hosting more than 50,000 code repositories for about 40,000 people. Not only will Codeberg take care of the Forgejo domain names and trademarks, but the organization will use Forgejo as the basis for their own services, instead of Gitea. Full post at: https://forgejo.org/2022-12-15-hello-forgejo/ https://forgejo.org/2022-12-15-hello-forgejo/ > Can you elaborate? I just mean that Git is a distributed model that supports multiple remotes. Having different hosts for different things is not a use-case that's unsupported or difficult with the current software.