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Even if there is a choice, iPhone users might tend to stick with Safari anyway. Desktop Safari's market share is about 10%, roughly the same as macOS' market sh

Even if there is a choice, iPhone users might tend to stick with Safari anyway. Desktop Safari's market share is about 10%, roughly the same as macOS' market share, which seems to suggest limited appetite for browser customization.

capableweb 4y ago
> Desktop Safari's market share is about 10%, roughly the same as macOS' market share Where you're getting these numbers from? Doesn't sound right to me, but maybe I just have a biased sample. I'd guesstimate that 50% if not more of my friends with macOS run Chrome, small percentage (2 or 3) runs Firefox and the rest Safari.
- mr_toad 4y ago
  Statcounter and other sites show ~10% for desktop Safari, and 15-18% in richer countries. Most people I know with Macs have at least two browsers installed, but then most people with Macs I know are fairly tech savvy.
  - the_solenoid 4y ago
    I can tell you, the users on the whole know about as much about tech as a luddite from 1867. I mean, that's a huge draw in the consumer space for mac/ios. Remember the scale were at here. Something like 250,000,000 ios devices a YEAR.
- freshpots 4y ago
  I think they mean market share for all desktop/laptops and not just Macs. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...
gdetassigny 4y ago
One reason for that might be wanting to use the same browser across mobile and desktop though. I know I stuck with Safari for a while because of that. I'm now on Firefox for both Mac and iOS but the iOS experience isn't that great. Once other browsers are allowed on iOS, it's possible more users will migrate on both desktop & mobile to Chrome/FF.
latexr 4y ago
I have never read or heard of anyone using desktop Safari due to a “limited appetite for browser customization”. In every context of every conversation I’ve witnessed where desktop Safari was mentioned, every participant was fully aware other browsers exist. As an example, Safari is the only choice if you don’t want to give more marketshare to Chromium but also need to programatically control or retrieve information from your browser. Firefox has no AppleScript support, which disqualifies it immediately.

capableweb 4y ago

> Desktop Safari's market share is about 10%, roughly the same as macOS' market share Where you're getting these numbers from? Doesn't sound right to me, but maybe I just have a biased sample. I'd guesstimate that 50% if not more of my friends with macOS run Chrome, small percentage (2 or 3) runs Firefox and the rest Safari.

mr_toad 4y ago
Statcounter and other sites show ~10% for desktop Safari, and 15-18% in richer countries. Most people I know with Macs have at least two browsers installed, but then most people with Macs I know are fairly tech savvy.
- the_solenoid 4y ago
  I can tell you, the users on the whole know about as much about tech as a luddite from 1867. I mean, that's a huge draw in the consumer space for mac/ios. Remember the scale were at here. Something like 250,000,000 ios devices a YEAR.
freshpots 4y ago
I think they mean market share for all desktop/laptops and not just Macs. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...

gdetassigny 4y ago

One reason for that might be wanting to use the same browser across mobile and desktop though. I know I stuck with Safari for a while because of that. I'm now on Firefox for both Mac and iOS but the iOS experience isn't that great. Once other browsers are allowed on iOS, it's possible more users will migrate on both desktop & mobile to Chrome/FF.

latexr 4y ago

I have never read or heard of anyone using desktop Safari due to a “limited appetite for browser customization”. In every context of every conversation I’ve witnessed where desktop Safari was mentioned, every participant was fully aware other browsers exist. As an example, Safari is the only choice if you don’t want to give more marketshare to Chromium but also need to programatically control or retrieve information from your browser. Firefox has no AppleScript support, which disqualifies it immediately.