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"I always encounter the exact opposite. I've never found any web application with a good UI or any web application that outperformed a native one." Consumers d

"I always encounter the exact opposite. I've never found any web application with a good UI or any web application that outperformed a native one." Consumers disagree. Almost every application is running chromium now and they couldn't be happier that it just works. It's great on Linux too. "The only reason the web stack is used for desktop applications is because it is a bit cheaper and less effort than writing a good - native application" You will have to write an electron application before commenting. Native UI's cannot be universal UI's, it breaks user experience, causes more bugs and looks terrible. I want my system menu to have a system UI. I do not want my user applications to look like the system. Times are already changed, native is dead, long live the chromium desktop.

naikrovek 4y ago
> Consumers disagree. Almost every application is running chromium now and they couldn't be happier that it just works. It's great on Linux too. consumers don't make that choice. developers choose electron because it is the only cross-platform target where almost all the cross-platform fiddly bits are handled for you. there are lots of cross-platform approaches where the fiddly bits are not handled out of the box, and those are all little more than background noise compared to electron. consumers neither know nor care how the app they use is implemented. they care only about which devices the app is available on. now to be clear, electron fucking sucks as a user of applications. it is dog slow and awful on RAM, and the billions of devices running electron apps definitely contribute to global warming far more than native apps would, but developers think that the One True Language is JavaScript and that the One True Platform is the browser, and well, cults are immune to logic.
- devwastaken 4y ago
  If electron is dog slow on your PC, upgrade. You're not the target platform. Runs fine on any device of the last 5 years with more than 4gb of ram. I suspect it runs just fine on your computer. Computer power usage is not even on a blip on the chart of power usage globally. A cult would infer the usage is small. On the contrary chromium is in almost everything nowadays, even medical equipment. The most robust graphics rendering engine is of course going to be used everywhere for graphics.
  - KronisLV 4y ago
    > If electron is dog slow on your PC, upgrade. Be careful with this reasoning: even if one Electron app might run fine, what about like 10 different ones at the same time? The overhead will compound worse than native apps.
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naikrovek 4y ago

> Consumers disagree. Almost every application is running chromium now and they couldn't be happier that it just works. It's great on Linux too. consumers don't make that choice. developers choose electron because it is the only cross-platform target where almost all the cross-platform fiddly bits are handled for you. there are lots of cross-platform approaches where the fiddly bits are not handled out of the box, and those are all little more than background noise compared to electron. consumers neither know nor care how the app they use is implemented. they care only about which devices the app is available on. now to be clear, electron fucking sucks as a user of applications. it is dog slow and awful on RAM, and the billions of devices running electron apps definitely contribute to global warming far more than native apps would, but developers think that the One True Language is JavaScript and that the One True Platform is the browser, and well, cults are immune to logic.

devwastaken 4y ago
If electron is dog slow on your PC, upgrade. You're not the target platform. Runs fine on any device of the last 5 years with more than 4gb of ram. I suspect it runs just fine on your computer. Computer power usage is not even on a blip on the chart of power usage globally. A cult would infer the usage is small. On the contrary chromium is in almost everything nowadays, even medical equipment. The most robust graphics rendering engine is of course going to be used everywhere for graphics.
- KronisLV 4y ago
  > If electron is dog slow on your PC, upgrade. Be careful with this reasoning: even if one Electron app might run fine, what about like 10 different ones at the same time? The overhead will compound worse than native apps.
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