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Meta expects you to have managed at least 40 ppl before considering them for a M2 role. M2s made $800k+. Why wouldn’t a manager not be motivated to grow his emp

Meta expects you to have managed at least 40 ppl before considering them for a M2 role. M2s made $800k+. Why wouldn’t a manager not be motivated to grow his empire? How else do you think managers will grow to VPs? We discuss ideals here but the reality on the ground is vastly different.

mnd999 4y ago
Directly and at the same time? I’m relatively new to this game, but that seems like far too many.
- pc86 4y ago
  Depends on your definition of "direct," but it includes skip-levels. This is what some of the other comments were referring to with growing your team large enough you end up with managers reporting to you. I've been an IC reporting to a manager, who himself reported to a manager (as opposed to director or senior manager), and while the second one was technically my skip it was more like I just had two direct supervisors.
- mulligan 4y ago
  no, he's referring to the total size of the team, not directly
vrc 4y ago
Yeah. To become a D1 you need to be an M2 who successfully manages (ideally) more than one other M2, who themselves might manage M2s or M1s or a combo. So you get really large chains of people at the same level in a reporting line, all managing and trying to show that they should be D1s.
- Ancalagon 4y ago
  No lie that sounds really lame.
- Wagthesam 4y ago
  It's actually amazing to see empire builders in action. While some EMs are busy trying to keep their teams on track, others are rolling entire teams under them and growing their mandate
gruffin 4y ago
> Meta expects you to have managed at least 40 ppl before considering them for a M2 role Not true. At least not as of late. M2 promos can lean on different things, e.g. delivered impact, over established people scope. But the person trying to promote you need to be able to do that well. Source: Have done M2 promotions at Meta.
- posharma 4y ago
  I'm not talking about promotions particularly.
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nishs 4y ago
> M2s made $800k+. Why wouldn’t a manager not be motivated to grow his empire? Possibly by not being singleminded or crazy about money.
stuckkeys 4y ago
Damn. Now I feel bad for our teachers since the empire starts with them and they get jack shit in return.

mnd999 4y ago

Directly and at the same time? I’m relatively new to this game, but that seems like far too many.

pc86 4y ago
Depends on your definition of "direct," but it includes skip-levels. This is what some of the other comments were referring to with growing your team large enough you end up with managers reporting to you. I've been an IC reporting to a manager, who himself reported to a manager (as opposed to director or senior manager), and while the second one was technically my skip it was more like I just had two direct supervisors.
mulligan 4y ago
no, he's referring to the total size of the team, not directly

vrc 4y ago

Yeah. To become a D1 you need to be an M2 who successfully manages (ideally) more than one other M2, who themselves might manage M2s or M1s or a combo. So you get really large chains of people at the same level in a reporting line, all managing and trying to show that they should be D1s.

Ancalagon 4y ago
No lie that sounds really lame.
Wagthesam 4y ago
It's actually amazing to see empire builders in action. While some EMs are busy trying to keep their teams on track, others are rolling entire teams under them and growing their mandate

gruffin 4y ago

> Meta expects you to have managed at least 40 ppl before considering them for a M2 role Not true. At least not as of late. M2 promos can lean on different things, e.g. delivered impact, over established people scope. But the person trying to promote you need to be able to do that well. Source: Have done M2 promotions at Meta.

posharma 4y ago
I'm not talking about promotions particularly.

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nishs 4y ago

> M2s made $800k+. Why wouldn’t a manager not be motivated to grow his empire? Possibly by not being singleminded or crazy about money.

stuckkeys 4y ago

Damn. Now I feel bad for our teachers since the empire starts with them and they get jack shit in return.