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> But on the other hand, if you care about your privacy, why would you trust a third party to intercept all of your web traffic? uBlock Origin is free and open

> But on the other hand, if you care about your privacy, why would you trust a third party to intercept all of your web traffic? uBlock Origin is free and open source, and its code is thoroughly reviewed by many contributors every release. I trust uBlock Origin over a filtering mechanism built into a closed source browser such as Safari.

scarface74 4y ago
WebKit is also open source and you can see exactly how it works. But did you personally download the open source version review the code and install it?
- deleted 4y ago
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- spartanatreyu 4y ago
  The difference is, webkit doesn't have an army of angry weaponised nerds that will go out of their way to remove every single unwanted pop-up and ad imaginable the second they appear.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Yes because people who care about unwanted advertising and tracking by a phone with an operating system built by an adTech company whose default browser doesn’t allow any type of ad blocking…
- commoner 4y ago
  WebKit may be open source, but Safari is not. The interface to access Safari's content blocking settings and the platform on which Safari content blocking extensions are built are both closed source, so your FUD about "intercepting web traffic" would be more appropriately directed at Safari than at uBlock Origin. Yes, I have personally downloaded the uBlock Origin source code. I have also reviewed the code and suggested improvements. However, I don't even need to download the code to realize the benefits of uBlock Origin being free and open source. Even if I hadn't downloaded the code, there are many other users and contributors who have reviewed the code, and you can confirm this by taking a simple look at the activity in the GitHub repos. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues
  - scarface74 4y ago
    So you think there is sone great conspiracy and that Apple is secretly tracking your web browsing history. But it only happens when you install a third party extension that sends it a bunch of JSON rules and that it went through the trouble of having two content blocking implementations that work ‘em the same way - one in Safari and one in WebKit?
    - commoner 4y ago
      > So you think there is sone great conspiracy and that Apple is secretly tracking your web browsing history. What are you talking about? You are the one who accused other developers of that. Let me quote you again: > But on the other hand, if you care about your privacy, why would you trust a third party to intercept all of your web traffic? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34699213 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34699213 My point is that because uBlock Origin is free and open source, anyone can see that it is not tracking users maliciously. On the other hand, Safari is closed source, so your FUD would be more applicable to Safari. There is no easy way for users to verify how a closed source browser such as Safari implements its content blocking. In terms of transparency, uBlock Origin is strictly superior to Safari.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        > In terms of transparency, uBlock Origin is strictly superior to Safari. Until you use an app with a web view… But tell me what can’t I block in your experience with 1Blocker on Safari? If we are comparing ad blocking extensions. We know that there is no possible method for a third party ad blocker on iOS to intercept your traffic. You’re comparing an ad blocker to a browser.
        commoner 4y ago
        You're changing the topic. You originally accused developers other than Apple of maliciously intercepting web traffic. I responded that your FUD is actually a greater concern with the closed source Safari than the free and open source uBlock Origin. What you're saying now about ad blocking coverage and web views is completely irrelevant to the invalidity of your original argument against an open browser ecosystem on iOS.
- oittaa 4y ago
  Please, link to the source code of the latest Safari build.

scarface74 4y ago

WebKit is also open source and you can see exactly how it works. But did you personally download the open source version review the code and install it?

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spartanatreyu 4y ago
The difference is, webkit doesn't have an army of angry weaponised nerds that will go out of their way to remove every single unwanted pop-up and ad imaginable the second they appear.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Yes because people who care about unwanted advertising and tracking by a phone with an operating system built by an adTech company whose default browser doesn’t allow any type of ad blocking…
commoner 4y ago
WebKit may be open source, but Safari is not. The interface to access Safari's content blocking settings and the platform on which Safari content blocking extensions are built are both closed source, so your FUD about "intercepting web traffic" would be more appropriately directed at Safari than at uBlock Origin. Yes, I have personally downloaded the uBlock Origin source code. I have also reviewed the code and suggested improvements. However, I don't even need to download the code to realize the benefits of uBlock Origin being free and open source. Even if I hadn't downloaded the code, there are many other users and contributors who have reviewed the code, and you can confirm this by taking a simple look at the activity in the GitHub repos. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues
- scarface74 4y ago
  So you think there is sone great conspiracy and that Apple is secretly tracking your web browsing history. But it only happens when you install a third party extension that sends it a bunch of JSON rules and that it went through the trouble of having two content blocking implementations that work ‘em the same way - one in Safari and one in WebKit?
  - commoner 4y ago
    > So you think there is sone great conspiracy and that Apple is secretly tracking your web browsing history. What are you talking about? You are the one who accused other developers of that. Let me quote you again: > But on the other hand, if you care about your privacy, why would you trust a third party to intercept all of your web traffic? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34699213 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34699213 My point is that because uBlock Origin is free and open source, anyone can see that it is not tracking users maliciously. On the other hand, Safari is closed source, so your FUD would be more applicable to Safari. There is no easy way for users to verify how a closed source browser such as Safari implements its content blocking. In terms of transparency, uBlock Origin is strictly superior to Safari.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      > In terms of transparency, uBlock Origin is strictly superior to Safari. Until you use an app with a web view… But tell me what can’t I block in your experience with 1Blocker on Safari? If we are comparing ad blocking extensions. We know that there is no possible method for a third party ad blocker on iOS to intercept your traffic. You’re comparing an ad blocker to a browser.
      - commoner 4y ago
        You're changing the topic. You originally accused developers other than Apple of maliciously intercepting web traffic. I responded that your FUD is actually a greater concern with the closed source Safari than the free and open source uBlock Origin. What you're saying now about ad blocking coverage and web views is completely irrelevant to the invalidity of your original argument against an open browser ecosystem on iOS.
oittaa 4y ago
Please, link to the source code of the latest Safari build.