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This is FAANG speak. They created this role for people who are not (directly) involved in management.
by coliveira 4y ago
This is FAANG speak. They created this role for people who are not (directly) involved in management.
- zabzonk 4y agoso i guess that managers are not individuals and don't contribute? might be true. but i've been a manager and an individual and contributed code. well, who knows?
- capitalsigma 4y agoThe point is that ICs are judged based on their individual contributions, i.e. their own code, design docs, etc, whereas managers are judged based on their team's contributions
- zabzonk 4y agoi have never, ever come across a programmer working on a system of any complexity that did not depend on contributions from other programmers.
- newfriend 4y agoWhy are you being so pedantic? At this point it seems like you're trolling. > so i guess that managers are not individuals and don't contribute? > i have never, ever come across a programmer working on a system of any complexity that did not depend on contributions from other programmers. No one said non-ICs aren't individuals, and no one said they don't contribute. No one said that ICs don't work with others or depend on others. What has been said, several times, is that their contributions (i.e. the code they produce, artifacts they create, etc) are largely individual contributions. They are the ones creating the thing, and are not responsible for others. This gets a bit murky as you move up the IC chain, in that your contributions become less tangible and are in part measured on how you lead others and make those around you more efficient. But your performance is still largely judged on what you produced.
- querulous 4y agothe nuance you are missing is that individual contributors are responsible for their own work and judged based on that. they are not responsible for the work of others. managers are of course responsible for the work of those they supervise
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- svachalek 4y agoA->B != !A->!B
- icedchai 4y agoAs usual, "it depends." Many individual contributors don't actually contribute, either. Some actually have negative net contribution.
- Mountain_Skies 4y agoLots of people who aren't part of the "working class" do plenty of work but that's the nomenclature society uses for some reason so if you want to communicate with everyone else, you have to go along with it.