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> The correlated activity from Google and Mozilla could suggest that they're expecting Apple to drop its restrictions on third-party browser engines in the near
by scottlamb 4y ago
> The correlated activity from Google and Mozilla could suggest that they're expecting Apple to drop its restrictions on third-party browser engines in the near future, or the companies could simply be hedging their bets.
Ugh, imagine being an engineer on the project if it's the latter. At a company strategy level, it may be wise to put resources into having this ready to go. [1] At an individual level, putting tons of effort into something like this with less than average hopes of launching seems extremely demotivating (and doesn't look so hot for "impact" in perf either).
I wonder how much effort it is combine the iOS UI layer and the non-iOS blink layer. I'm terrible at estimating effort even for my own projects so it's hard to speculate.
[1] A bit less wise to do speculative projects while simultaneously laying off 12,000 people with no warning.
- tgv 4y ago> Ugh, imagine being an engineer on the project if it's the latter. OTOH, no users means no bugs.
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- sigmoid10 4y agoYeah. This seems like a dream job for mediocre developers who are just at google for the paycheck and the creds. And considering the layoffs, they don't seem to have a shortage of those.
- foobiekr 4y agoAt google the problem will be that the product can't be said to have impact.
- bendiksolheim 4y agoQuite the opposite! I would find it highly motivating to work on something like this, even if it was just a 5% chance it would make it onto actual phones. You certainly need the right types of people who are motivated by the right factors, but that is not unique for this case.
- dheera 4y ago> even if it was just a 5% chance It would be more motivating for me if in the 95% event that Apple rejects it from the app store, a PR disaster can be launched against Apple for it, and instructions are published to install it on a jailbroken phone.
- rcme 4y agoWhat's the latest iOS version that can be jail broken? With all of the exploits on iOS, I'd be pretty nervous running an old iOS version.
- jedberg 4y agoIsn't it a requirement that the iOS be exploitable so that it can be jailbroken? Is your hope that the exploit for the jailbreak is the one and only flaw? :)
- rcme 4y agoTrue. I guess my point was that, given the insane number of zero-click iMessage exploits there have been, you’d have to really not care about any of your data to use a jail broken phone.
- United857 4y agoDon't even need to jailbreak, nowadays you can build/sideload using a free iOS developer account, especially if the projects in question are open source.
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- voytec 4y agoIf Apple will be forced by law to allow apps from outside AppStore, vendors will possibly have less restrictions.
- atonse 4y agoAs much as I hate the App Store and want competition, for the sake of all the non tech loved ones in my life, I sincerely hope that either doesn’t happen, or that it is difficult enough to get people to “add” additional stores.
- EMIRELADERO 4y agoWhatever happened to parental control?
- r00fus 4y agoI'm not going to setup parental controls for Aunt Marge but sure as hell she'll call me when she installs spyware/malware and wants my help in fixing the problem. I know that's the result of multiple app stores if a trusted entity can't/won't police them.
- atonse 4y agoIt’s for my parents and others. I just know the idiots like Verizon will start preloading their own App Store on the phone and make a mess of things with all kinds of garbage. I’m shocked at the crap that is preloaded onto android phones whenever I see one.
- 331c8c71 4y agoThis doesn't seem to be the practice in a European country I live in btw, but I've seen it elsewhere (once bought a cheap android phone while travelling).
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- Consultant32452 4y agoSeems like a great grift gig to me. Low pressure, possible chance of high reward.
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- aikinai 4y agoGoogle engineers often spend years on less exciting and interesting projects that get canceled or don’t succeed. Plenty of people would enjoy working on this whether or not it launches, and it’s also a high-profile bet, so I’d say it’s in the very top tier of desirable projects.
- summerlight 4y agoThe actual launch (or landing) probably doesn't really mean much for less senior employees as long as they would get enough attention from their management. But for those managers and above, it might.
- conradev 4y ago> I wonder how much effort it is combine the iOS UI layer and the non-iOS blink layer. These browsers all compile and work on macOS. Getting them to work on iOS involves lots of fiddly details like forcing the browsers into single-process mode, integrating it with their existing mobile UI, etc but core technologies like rendering won't be much different
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- paxys 4y agoThere was an entire massive team engineers at Microsoft that worked on iPhone/iPad versions of Office for many years, and every time they were ready for release it was blocked by Ballmer. Their work finally saw the light of day the moment Nadella took over and was instantly a hit.
- vbezhenar 4y agoWhy does it matter whether project is shipped or not? I work for money. I don't have income cut from this project. Whether it's shipped or not is outside of my interest. All that matters is whether it's good enough to ship. I'd even say that shipped projects usually are less interesting because they're filled with mundane but necessary tasks and bugs, dragged by compatibility.
- gameshot911 4y agoIt's good to work for money, but even better if you can work on something meaningful, too.