It's a good question. I mean, if there are lots of managers at Meta who only have 4-5 direct reports, you could see this scaling decently well -- turn two team

It's a good question. I mean, if there are lots of managers at Meta who only have 4-5 direct reports, you could see this scaling decently well -- turn two teams into one, and that's not so bad. But I don't think one person can constructively manage more than about 20 engineers at the absolute maximum.