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https://www.thefp.com/p/he-was-a-world-renowned-cancer-researcher https://www.thefp.com/p/he-was-a-world-renowned-cancer-resea... Alternatively: He had a conse

https://www.thefp.com/p/he-was-a-world-renowned-cancer-researcher https://www.thefp.com/p/he-was-a-world-renowned-cancer-resea... Alternatively: He had a consensual relationship with a woman in the same institute, but had her own lab and he had no supervisory power over her. 2 years later she retroactively decided the relationship was abusive. It's rather unusual to ban all relationships across the board, even between people without a supervisor-employee relationship. "Sexualized lab environment" is an incredibly vague allegation to make. These people are adults. Chances are a large number of the people working in the lab are dating or looking for a partner - are they just not supposed to give any mention to their social lives at work?

acdha 4y ago
That's a right-wing activist's personal site. Bari Weiss doesn't have any insight or information into this, just a political and financial motivation to hype up “cancel culture”. Of course she's going to say that he was innocent because she needs a constant source of new material to maintain the narrative which pays her bills.
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  It's always extremely amusing when I see Bari Weiss libeled in a such a manner. yes, the Jewish Lesbian with a degree from Colombia, numerous journalism awards, nearly a decade of experience working at the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times is totally a right-wing activist rather than a well educated, well reasoned, experienced journalist with views you don't agree with (almost certainly because your views are at least partially wrong).
  - Manuel_D 4y ago
    I've come to conclude it's a matter of perspective: I've met communities where someone such as Weiss genuinely is right-wing by the standards of community. I don't think it's right or productive to declare that the above commenter's view are wrong, rather it's just indicative of the extremity of their point of view.
    - snapplebobapple 4y ago
      They didn't say right wing, they said right wing activist, which is a wholly different beast than being right wing.
  - acdha 4y ago
    You appear to be arguing that her identity protects her ideas from criticism – are we to believe someone can’t be Jewish or gay while also being right-wing or an activist? Or that a degree from a good school somehow prevents you from being ideologically committed? I used that label based on her writing. If you look at the positions she’s taken over the last half decade or so, they’re consistently on-message for what American conservatives are opposing: attacking #MeToo, railing against imaginary antifa (it’s been a while but that’s why she stopped writing NYT op-eds[1]), pushing COVID denialism, attack transgender people, and, most especially, being a committed member of the “cancel culture” marketing campaign. Whether that was hyping up IDW figures, defending a right-winger who is currently being criticized, or minimizing right-wing book banning or calls for people to be fired, she’ll be right there next to the rest of the crew. Bear in mind that I’m not saying any of those are (or should be) illegal, only that on this topic she’s notably biased and quite literally makes a living from advancing this position. Her move out of journalism was based on building an audience with a pronounced bias and she’s not going to say anything which upsets them until she has another job lined up. Reading her blog posts on a culture war issue is like going to HuffPost expecting trenchant analysis of the Republican Party. 1. https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2020/breaking-down-the-controversial-resignation-of-new-york-times-opinion-writer-bari-weiss/ https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2020/breaking-down-the-c...
    - arp242 4y ago
      What Bari Weiss may or may not be is rather irrelative here. The core facts ("He had a consensual relationship with a woman in the same institute, but had her own lab and he had no supervisory power over her. 2 years later she retroactively decided the relationship was abusive") are not disputed. Or if they are, you're not addressing that in your comments. That is really what it's about, not Bari Weiss.
    - snapplebobapple 4y ago
      You appear to be ignoring the other 60% of that sentence that pointed to her work history, awards and degree. Although lesbian Jew has not traditionally been associated with being right wing, it's a big, inclusive tent these days (thankfully). As for your second paragraph, there is quite a lot of mischaracterization of what she has actually said and weird correlation equals activism claims. You haven't put forth anything that refutes the educated, competent journalist with views you disagree with counter hypothesis to your right wing activist claim.

acdha 4y ago

That's a right-wing activist's personal site. Bari Weiss doesn't have any insight or information into this, just a political and financial motivation to hype up “cancel culture”. Of course she's going to say that he was innocent because she needs a constant source of new material to maintain the narrative which pays her bills.

snapplebobapple 4y ago
It's always extremely amusing when I see Bari Weiss libeled in a such a manner. yes, the Jewish Lesbian with a degree from Colombia, numerous journalism awards, nearly a decade of experience working at the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times is totally a right-wing activist rather than a well educated, well reasoned, experienced journalist with views you don't agree with (almost certainly because your views are at least partially wrong).
- Manuel_D 4y ago
  I've come to conclude it's a matter of perspective: I've met communities where someone such as Weiss genuinely is right-wing by the standards of community. I don't think it's right or productive to declare that the above commenter's view are wrong, rather it's just indicative of the extremity of their point of view.
  - snapplebobapple 4y ago
    They didn't say right wing, they said right wing activist, which is a wholly different beast than being right wing.
- acdha 4y ago
  You appear to be arguing that her identity protects her ideas from criticism – are we to believe someone can’t be Jewish or gay while also being right-wing or an activist? Or that a degree from a good school somehow prevents you from being ideologically committed? I used that label based on her writing. If you look at the positions she’s taken over the last half decade or so, they’re consistently on-message for what American conservatives are opposing: attacking #MeToo, railing against imaginary antifa (it’s been a while but that’s why she stopped writing NYT op-eds[1]), pushing COVID denialism, attack transgender people, and, most especially, being a committed member of the “cancel culture” marketing campaign. Whether that was hyping up IDW figures, defending a right-winger who is currently being criticized, or minimizing right-wing book banning or calls for people to be fired, she’ll be right there next to the rest of the crew. Bear in mind that I’m not saying any of those are (or should be) illegal, only that on this topic she’s notably biased and quite literally makes a living from advancing this position. Her move out of journalism was based on building an audience with a pronounced bias and she’s not going to say anything which upsets them until she has another job lined up. Reading her blog posts on a culture war issue is like going to HuffPost expecting trenchant analysis of the Republican Party. 1. https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2020/breaking-down-the-controversial-resignation-of-new-york-times-opinion-writer-bari-weiss/ https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2020/breaking-down-the-c...
  - arp242 4y ago
    What Bari Weiss may or may not be is rather irrelative here. The core facts ("He had a consensual relationship with a woman in the same institute, but had her own lab and he had no supervisory power over her. 2 years later she retroactively decided the relationship was abusive") are not disputed. Or if they are, you're not addressing that in your comments. That is really what it's about, not Bari Weiss.
  - snapplebobapple 4y ago
    You appear to be ignoring the other 60% of that sentence that pointed to her work history, awards and degree. Although lesbian Jew has not traditionally been associated with being right wing, it's a big, inclusive tent these days (thankfully). As for your second paragraph, there is quite a lot of mischaracterization of what she has actually said and weird correlation equals activism claims. You haven't put forth anything that refutes the educated, competent journalist with views you disagree with counter hypothesis to your right wing activist claim.