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A related question (that I still haven't been able to find a good answer to!) -- is: How did all of the Hydrogen in the Universe -- get there in the first plac

A related question (that I still haven't been able to find a good answer to!) -- is: How did all of the Hydrogen in the Universe -- get there in the first place? ? Simply saying that "the Big Bang created it" might be true -- but is tremendously lacking in terms of a nuanced scientific understanding as to how the Hydrogen was, in effect, apparently created from "empty space" -- in the first place! If Muonium is real (I retain a half-skeptical, yet half open mind about this point, which I feel is a healthy position to take at this point of time without knowing more) -- then perhaps Muonium could be a stepping-stone in this future understanding... Of course, if Muonium is real and is a precursor to Hydrogen, that is, if we can make Hydrogen out of some kind of Muonium reaction, then we must replace our initial question of "How did all of the Hydrogen in the Universe get there in the first place?" with "How did all of the Muonium and/or other Hydrogen precursors that created the initial Hydrogen in the Universe get there in the first place?" Ultimately, the question comes down to "how do you create something from empty space", which comes down to "how do you create something from quantum foam/perturbations" (if the empty space consists of quantum foam/perturbations) -- which probably brings up the question of solitons, specifically how solitons can be created and sustained in quantum foam (in essence, the creation of a particle...) Perhaps the concepts surrounding Muonium could provide some ideas and/or clues in that direction... Anyway, an interesting and thought-provoking video!

Maursault 4y ago
> How did all of the Hydrogen in the Universe -- get there in the first place? Backwards! How did all the Universe get there around the Hydrogen? > Ultimately, the question comes down to "how do you create something from empty space", which comes down to "how do you create something from quantum foam/perturbations" (if the empty space consists of quantum foam/perturbations) -- which probably brings up the question of solitons, specifically how solitons can be created and sustained in quantum foam (in essence, the creation of a particle...) Why would you assume space comes before matter? Because you have it backwards, and ultimately the correct question to ask is: how do you create space from empty matter?
- peter_d_sherman 4y ago
  >Backwards! How did all the Universe get there around the Hydrogen? Well now! <g> Which came first, the Chicken or the Egg? ? Which came first, the Universe or the Hydrogen? (to restate your question!) ? Backwards indeed! <g> >Why would you assume space comes before matter? Why would you -- assume Hydrogen exists before the Universe does? ? >Because you have it backwards, and ultimately the correct question to ask is: how do you create space from empty matter? OK, so what's the answer to that question? And how does it get us any closer to understanding how Hydrogen might be created by humanity -- in the vaccuum of space? How do you create space from empty matter -- since you bring up that question? And how would this knowledge help us create Hydrogen in a lab? Such that humanity could one day create Hydrogen on the surface of Mars? Such that humanity could one day create Water on the surface of Mars? Without bringing water or other Hydrogen-containing chemical compounds with us to Mars? ?
  - Maursault 4y ago
    It's a tough question, but the fact that anything with mass affects the spacetime around it is a huge hint, and it seems clear that mass, spacetime, and light (E=mc^2) are intrinsically related: space is never really empty and matter is always somewhere.
    - peter_d_sherman 4y ago
      All of that might be true -- but none of it provides an answer to the questions whose answers are sought... You might wish to have a quick look at the following: Definition and Examples of Vagueness in Language https://www.thoughtco.com/vagueness-language-1692483 https://www.thoughtco.com/vagueness-language-1692483 If you don't know how Hydrogen might be created by humanity in the vaccuum of space, you should simply say: "I don't know how Hydrogen might be created by humanity in the vaccuum of space". Otherwise you should explain the specific and exact steps necessary to be taken to accomplish this in a lab -- if you indeed know... None of what you've said thus far provides an answer to the questions whose answers are sought...

Maursault 4y ago

> How did all of the Hydrogen in the Universe -- get there in the first place? Backwards! How did all the Universe get there around the Hydrogen? > Ultimately, the question comes down to "how do you create something from empty space", which comes down to "how do you create something from quantum foam/perturbations" (if the empty space consists of quantum foam/perturbations) -- which probably brings up the question of solitons, specifically how solitons can be created and sustained in quantum foam (in essence, the creation of a particle...) Why would you assume space comes before matter? Because you have it backwards, and ultimately the correct question to ask is: how do you create space from empty matter?

peter_d_sherman 4y ago
>Backwards! How did all the Universe get there around the Hydrogen? Well now! <g> Which came first, the Chicken or the Egg? ? Which came first, the Universe or the Hydrogen? (to restate your question!) ? Backwards indeed! <g> >Why would you assume space comes before matter? Why would you -- assume Hydrogen exists before the Universe does? ? >Because you have it backwards, and ultimately the correct question to ask is: how do you create space from empty matter? OK, so what's the answer to that question? And how does it get us any closer to understanding how Hydrogen might be created by humanity -- in the vaccuum of space? How do you create space from empty matter -- since you bring up that question? And how would this knowledge help us create Hydrogen in a lab? Such that humanity could one day create Hydrogen on the surface of Mars? Such that humanity could one day create Water on the surface of Mars? Without bringing water or other Hydrogen-containing chemical compounds with us to Mars? ?
- Maursault 4y ago
  It's a tough question, but the fact that anything with mass affects the spacetime around it is a huge hint, and it seems clear that mass, spacetime, and light (E=mc^2) are intrinsically related: space is never really empty and matter is always somewhere.
  - peter_d_sherman 4y ago
    All of that might be true -- but none of it provides an answer to the questions whose answers are sought... You might wish to have a quick look at the following: Definition and Examples of Vagueness in Language https://www.thoughtco.com/vagueness-language-1692483 https://www.thoughtco.com/vagueness-language-1692483 If you don't know how Hydrogen might be created by humanity in the vaccuum of space, you should simply say: "I don't know how Hydrogen might be created by humanity in the vaccuum of space". Otherwise you should explain the specific and exact steps necessary to be taken to accomplish this in a lab -- if you indeed know... None of what you've said thus far provides an answer to the questions whose answers are sought...