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> This is the sort of thing that confounds me. It proports to be anti racist but it's the opposite, it treats minorities as a special lesser class that require
by bArray 4y ago
> This is the sort of thing that confounds me. It proports to be anti racist but it's the opposite, it treats minorities as a special lesser class that require protection from everyone else. It's the civil rights movement in reverse.
It's worse, you tell somebody they are a victim enough, and they begin to believe it, they even play the role of a victim. You are now starting to see a generation of young minorities that have become what they are told they are. You now have a permanent victim class.
> It's already started bleeding into the workspace with mandatory training and verbiage that essentially says anything you do in your interactions with a minority if they accuse you of anything they are right and you must meekly accept it and bow your head in shame.
The result in this will simply be that people avoid interactions with people who pose a risk to them. You already see for example men are very cautious of being alone with women, or teachers alone with students.
> You even have companies doing layoffs now intentionally focused on laying off non minorities.
Those who choose this policy over merit deserve the rotten companies they are creating. Ultimately you do end up with what you optimize for.
> Another issue is that Asians while less in number than most other minorities are treated as white by DEI.
White Asians are a problem for the ideology, because they are a minority that statistically does well. They have to treat them as white, otherwise the ideology falls apart.
> I worry about my kids if this keeps escalating.
You'll probably find they are already being indoctrinated. I have teacher friends working in younger education who admit on social media they purposefully neglect boys when picking students with their hands up, and similar scenarios. Statistically men before this movement were doing worse than their female counterparts, I hate to think where we are after another 10 years time.
- goatlover 4y agoAnd if you're a minority group like Asians, Hispanics or African immigrants, you get called terms like white-adjacent or internalizing racism when upholding values of hard work and discipline to get ahead, because those are somehow values of a "white supremacist" society.
- wonderwonder 4y agoI'm still recovering from the Smithsonian's presentation on whiteness (which I assume you are referencing) that listed white negative traits as things like: Planning for the future Delayed Gratification Self Reliance Adherence to the nuclear family Objective, Rational thinking Hard work being the key to success
- goatlover 4y agoYes, that was one of the examples I had in mind. Yet you see folks in her dismiss any arguments against DEI as boogeyman of right-wing pundits.
- bArray 4y ago> Yet you see folks in her dismiss any arguments against DEI as boogeyman of right-wing pundits. I don't know how "right-wing" became a slur, but it's unhealthy for people to hold their opposition with such low regard. Progressive politics (typically left-leaning) is the idea of making "progress" (read: change), so most issues raised if not implemented or occurring already, will occur in the near future. Conservative politics (typically right-leaning) is the idea of conserving the current way of life, but they are rarely successful and only serve to slow down policies. Conservatism for the most part is a mostly liberal position. Most honest people would agree there is a great advantage to making change slowly and carefully - all the longest living institutions (up until recently) survived by doing this. The problem in the US is that conservatism is also conflated with lots of other random ideas, like religion and right-wing policies (anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, etc). There's no way to vote for the parts you like without voting for the parts you don't like.
- Forgeties79 4y ago>The problem in the US is that conservatism is also conflated with lots of other random ideas They're not conflated. They are stances held by large swatch of US conservatives.
- bArray 4y agoI have come across Smithsonian Institute before [1] (unfortunately). I'm sure white supremacy is also defined by being healthy, having good money management, etc. Everything held up by white Western culture must be purged. I've worked with a number of young black adults for example that have said (paraphrasing) "this work is too hard, where I am from we do not work this hard". My response is always something like "the greater the work, the greater the reward". According to DEI, what I should have done is made the work easier/irrelevant for them, and then balanced out the end result (probably by degrading the work of others). But being a white supremacist, I made them work hard, and they got a great end result. Afterwards they thanked me for pushing them and they were (rightfully) proud of what they had achieved. It had value because it was not easy to obtain. [1] https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiten...
- bArray 4y ago> racism when upholding values of hard work and discipline to get ahead I think these activists are to racism what SlimFast/WeightWatchers is to dieting. They have no interest in actually solving the problem, they instead would much rather you perpetually be a victim.