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its physically impossible to have gained 25lbs of muscle in 7 months unless you're doing steroids

Cpoll 4y ago
I don't have the science to back this up, but I think it's plausible, if we make some assumptions. It's basically 3.5lbs/month. - 2lbs/month is reasonable for beginner gains [citation needed, but sounds right to me]. - If you're really skinny, you'll get bigger gains. - If you're training optimally (adequate diet, good exercise volume) you'll get better gains than the average beginner. - Genetic lottery chances. - Measuring body fat changes isn't perfect (and there will be changes if you're bulking), so it might not be exactly 25lbs.
- anthonypasq 4y ago
  2lbs a month is basically the maximum if you are perfectly optimizing everything. 3.5lbs a month is impossible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQkRDGz1Nkw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQkRDGz1Nkw
- fierro 4y ago
  2lb/month of weight gain, including muscle, fat, and water, is very doable for a beginner lifter. 2lb/month of true lean tissue mass is indeed "impossible" without exogenous hormones.
  - theturtletalks 4y ago
    And it gets harder adding muscle. Adding 2lb the first few months is doable. Eventually adding even 1lb gets harder to do and you plateau.
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mmh0000 4y ago
wink wink nudge nudge If I'm going to waste time going to the gym, I'm going to get the maximum time to benefit ratio.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Yeah it is not like there are any life fucking up side effects
  - mmh0000 4y ago
    Have some sources https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081788/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081788/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897047/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897047/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j232kdcnSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j232kdcnSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhfP3MBYLU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhfP3MBYLU https://www.reddit.com/r/trt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/trt/
    - quickthrower2 4y ago
      Oh right your wink is about testosterone! I have had supplemental testosterone because of low levels. No big deal I reckon. I thought the nudge was about anabolic steroids, since that is illegal most places.
khaki54 4y ago
Hmmm I was 6'0" 142 first day in the military... After 19 weeks of abuse, (infantry school + airborne) often active 20 hours per day I emerged 165. So 23 lbs of almost lean muscle in under 5 months. I would rate the previous commenter's claim as plausible.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  How do you know there is no fat, water or bone in the mix?
  - khaki54 4y ago
    I suppose I don't. But it makes less sense to me that I would increase bone density in 19 weeks in a meaningful amount and even less sense that I would put on any fat when we had roughly 2-5 mins to eat every meal.

I don't have the science to back this up, but I think it's plausible, if we make some assumptions. It's basically 3.5lbs/month. - 2lbs/month is reasonable for beginner gains [citation needed, but sounds right to me]. - If you're really skinny, you'll get bigger gains. - If you're training optimally (adequate diet, good exercise volume) you'll get better gains than the average beginner. - Genetic lottery chances. - Measuring body fat changes isn't perfect (and there will be changes if you're bulking), so it might not be exactly 25lbs.

anthonypasq 4y ago
2lbs a month is basically the maximum if you are perfectly optimizing everything. 3.5lbs a month is impossible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQkRDGz1Nkw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQkRDGz1Nkw
fierro 4y ago
2lb/month of weight gain, including muscle, fat, and water, is very doable for a beginner lifter. 2lb/month of true lean tissue mass is indeed "impossible" without exogenous hormones.
- theturtletalks 4y ago
  And it gets harder adding muscle. Adding 2lb the first few months is doable. Eventually adding even 1lb gets harder to do and you plateau.

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mmh0000 4y ago

wink wink nudge nudge If I'm going to waste time going to the gym, I'm going to get the maximum time to benefit ratio.

quickthrower2 4y ago
Yeah it is not like there are any life fucking up side effects
- mmh0000 4y ago
  Have some sources https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081788/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081788/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897047/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897047/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j232kdcnSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j232kdcnSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhfP3MBYLU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBhfP3MBYLU https://www.reddit.com/r/trt/ https://www.reddit.com/r/trt/
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    Oh right your wink is about testosterone! I have had supplemental testosterone because of low levels. No big deal I reckon. I thought the nudge was about anabolic steroids, since that is illegal most places.

khaki54 4y ago

Hmmm I was 6'0" 142 first day in the military... After 19 weeks of abuse, (infantry school + airborne) often active 20 hours per day I emerged 165. So 23 lbs of almost lean muscle in under 5 months. I would rate the previous commenter's claim as plausible.

quickthrower2 4y ago
How do you know there is no fat, water or bone in the mix?
- khaki54 4y ago
  I suppose I don't. But it makes less sense to me that I would increase bone density in 19 weeks in a meaningful amount and even less sense that I would put on any fat when we had roughly 2-5 mins to eat every meal.