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I mean, that's certainly part of it. But you're also seeing very fast restructuring of individual courses (because programs overall will definitely take years t
by Loughla 4y ago
I mean, that's certainly part of it. But you're also seeing very fast restructuring of individual courses (because programs overall will definitely take years to restructure because higher education moves so damned slow) to account for these tools.
In the small institution I am currently working with, the English courses, in one week, integrated chatgpt as a tool for students to work with. It's part of the collaborative idea building and development process now for every student enrolled in creative writing and writing analysis classes, and that happened in one week. I cannot stress enough how unbelievably fast that is for higher ed. That's faster than light speed.
And we're not even that well resourced. I have to imagine there are other examples where it's more than just running through a bot to scan for known outputs.
- hgsgm 4y agoWow, instead of learning and being creative, just write a out whatever the generic safe whitewashed chatbot says? Why pay for the college?
- stcroixx 4y agoSounds like they simply panicked and threw something together with little thought or preparation, what, right in the middle of an actual course? And they want to charge kids for this kind of 'expert instruction'? I'd be pissed as a student.
- Loughla 4y agoWhat a weird assumption you made there. In what way does what I wrote sound panicked? Because it was a week? Yes it was fast, but it was a massive effort of the entire english faculty. It's integrated into existing assignments, modifying processes that are super well established already. It was like integrating a new person into the class. Also, it was before semester, so the students literally saw nothing weird; that was another strange assumption for you to make. Just a tip, and don't read tone in this statement, but don't assume things. 9/10 times you're going to be incorrect. It's much better to ask questions, instead of making statements with question marks at the end of them.
- pcthrowaway 4y ago> don't assume things. 9/10 times you're going to be incorrect Isn't that... an assumption?
- Loughla 4y agoNo, it's an assertion. It's like the bastard cousin of an assumption, in that it's only incorrect 8.67 times out of 10.
- bigbluedots 4y agoIt's an assertion of an assumption, unless you've gone and measured.
- stcroixx 4y agoI simply don’t buy that they had anywhere close to enough time to integrate this into an existing curriculum in a way that would meet the high standards paying students should have for a university education. I don’t have to ask how an English department became experts in using a just released AI in the classroom in a week because I don’t think that’s what they actually achieved.
- Loughla 4y agoAgain, stop putting words in my mouth, please. I never said they became experts. I said they integrated it into existing processes. I said that they were doing something other than just scanning for chatgpt hits like plagiarism checkers. >It's part of the collaborative idea building and development process now for every student enrolled in creative writing and writing analysis classes >It's integrated into existing assignments, modifying processes that are super well established already. It was like integrating a new person into the class. I don't honestly know how else to say that. I legitimately do not know how to help you understand what I'm saying.
- miguelazo 4y ago