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They hate the professional managerial class, but love the coders that go above and beyond to write them patents and build them technologies (capital) for only a

They hate the professional managerial class, but love the coders that go above and beyond to write them patents and build them technologies (capital) for only a steady paycheck.

brightball 4y ago
This one is more complex. If the company is explicitly paying you to build something to be patented, they should own it. Making it yourself means not accepting their paycheck for the work and covering the associated expenses of your own time and filings. Then you own it and can license it to whoever. If there’s some alternative way of doing this that still incentivizes the company to hire you in the first place, it’s probably worth negotiating up front. Patents aren’t very different from any other work for hire scenario in that the people paying for the work will own the result. If you hire someone to renovate your house and make a ton of money selling it, does the contractor deserve a cut? If so, did he charge you less for that cut knowing it was a flip?
AlbertCory 4y ago
Patents are not worth much, sorry. Unless you're a patent troll. They're a by-product of other work.
- xxpor 4y ago
  That's like saying nukes aren't worth much. They aren't at an individual level, but the total value is much greater than the sum of their parts. From a game theory perspective, patents essentially have MAD dynamics: no one is crazy enough to strike first, but if you come at anyone they'll respond in kind. This is why patent trolls are so dangerous, they don't have any actual assets, so they're not in any actual danger when suing.
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dsfyu404ed 4y ago
The people below the PMC hate them just as much if not more than the people above. It's one thing to have someone who makes more money than you can imagine swinging their dick into politics and being generally out of touch. It's a lot harder to make excuses when you see people who are more numerous and only make 2-10x what you make doing it.

They hate the professional managerial class, but love the coders that go above and beyond to write them patents and build them technologies (capital) for only a steady paycheck.

brightball 4y ago

This one is more complex. If the company is explicitly paying you to build something to be patented, they should own it. Making it yourself means not accepting their paycheck for the work and covering the associated expenses of your own time and filings. Then you own it and can license it to whoever. If there’s some alternative way of doing this that still incentivizes the company to hire you in the first place, it’s probably worth negotiating up front. Patents aren’t very different from any other work for hire scenario in that the people paying for the work will own the result. If you hire someone to renovate your house and make a ton of money selling it, does the contractor deserve a cut? If so, did he charge you less for that cut knowing it was a flip?

AlbertCory 4y ago

Patents are not worth much, sorry. Unless you're a patent troll. They're a by-product of other work.

xxpor 4y ago
That's like saying nukes aren't worth much. They aren't at an individual level, but the total value is much greater than the sum of their parts. From a game theory perspective, patents essentially have MAD dynamics: no one is crazy enough to strike first, but if you come at anyone they'll respond in kind. This is why patent trolls are so dangerous, they don't have any actual assets, so they're not in any actual danger when suing.
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dsfyu404ed 4y ago

The people below the PMC hate them just as much if not more than the people above. It's one thing to have someone who makes more money than you can imagine swinging their dick into politics and being generally out of touch. It's a lot harder to make excuses when you see people who are more numerous and only make 2-10x what you make doing it.