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But the UIs provided by the operating system are making DirectX/Metal calls for you... they are GPU accelerated. And they have been for like 16 years now.

c-smile 4y ago
> UIs provided by the operating system ... GPU accelerated That depends on what you mean by "system UI". Most system utilities on Windows are still using GDI. GDI is not GPU accelerated (other than BitBlt). Same apply to MacOS - CoreGraphics there is pure CPU rasterization library. And the same situation on Linux/GTK, system uses Cairo - pure CPU rasterization library. Usually, on modern OSes, window/desktop manager is the only GPU accelerated thing - it composes window bitmaps on screen.
- fassssst 4y ago
  WPF and WinUI on Windows are both GPU accelerated. They render with Direct3D calls under the hood.
  - c-smile 4y ago
    Sciter greatly overlaps with those. It is just that instead of XAML it uses HTML/CSS, JS/C/C++ instead of C# and works on all desktop platforms. For the note: historically Sciter appeared before WPF and WinUI/UWP : https://sciter.com/sciter/sciter-vs-wpf/ https://sciter.com/sciter/sciter-vs-wpf/ By any means WPF and WinUI are not UIs provided by the OS. These are userland UI libraries. Same thing as Sciter.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      WinUI is definitly provided by the OS, as it depends on WinRT infrastructure, even more so on the UWP side of the fence. Without WinRT there isn't WinUI, while WPF really only depends on DirectX 9.
  - MrGilbert 4y ago
    While WPF is hardware accelerated, it is not very efficient[1]. I'm not sure if this has changed lately. Always had the impression that WPF was not Microsoft's favorite child. [1]: https://jeremiahmorrill.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/a-critical-deep-dive-into-the-wpf-rendering-system/ https://jeremiahmorrill.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/a-critical-...
- audidude 4y ago
  > And the same situation on Linux/GTK, system uses Cairo - pure CPU rasterization library. GTK 4 renders by default using your GPU. The only part that is CPU rasterized is if we don't have an accelerated path for it (rare) and glyphs are first rendered on CPU, uploaded to a texture atlas, and then GPU colored/blit from there on.

c-smile 4y ago

> UIs provided by the operating system ... GPU accelerated That depends on what you mean by "system UI". Most system utilities on Windows are still using GDI. GDI is not GPU accelerated (other than BitBlt). Same apply to MacOS - CoreGraphics there is pure CPU rasterization library. And the same situation on Linux/GTK, system uses Cairo - pure CPU rasterization library. Usually, on modern OSes, window/desktop manager is the only GPU accelerated thing - it composes window bitmaps on screen.

fassssst 4y ago
WPF and WinUI on Windows are both GPU accelerated. They render with Direct3D calls under the hood.
- c-smile 4y ago
  Sciter greatly overlaps with those. It is just that instead of XAML it uses HTML/CSS, JS/C/C++ instead of C# and works on all desktop platforms. For the note: historically Sciter appeared before WPF and WinUI/UWP : https://sciter.com/sciter/sciter-vs-wpf/ https://sciter.com/sciter/sciter-vs-wpf/ By any means WPF and WinUI are not UIs provided by the OS. These are userland UI libraries. Same thing as Sciter.
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    WinUI is definitly provided by the OS, as it depends on WinRT infrastructure, even more so on the UWP side of the fence. Without WinRT there isn't WinUI, while WPF really only depends on DirectX 9.
- MrGilbert 4y ago
  While WPF is hardware accelerated, it is not very efficient[1]. I'm not sure if this has changed lately. Always had the impression that WPF was not Microsoft's favorite child. [1]: https://jeremiahmorrill.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/a-critical-deep-dive-into-the-wpf-rendering-system/ https://jeremiahmorrill.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/a-critical-...
audidude 4y ago
> And the same situation on Linux/GTK, system uses Cairo - pure CPU rasterization library. GTK 4 renders by default using your GPU. The only part that is CPU rasterized is if we don't have an accelerated path for it (rare) and glyphs are first rendered on CPU, uploaded to a texture atlas, and then GPU colored/blit from there on.