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This is my toot, but the credit (and possibly the link) should be to @gigabecquerel: https://chaos.social/@gigabecquerel/109818433760462038 https://chaos.social

by jonty 4y ago

This is my toot, but the credit (and possibly the link) should be to @gigabecquerel: https://chaos.social/@gigabecquerel/109818433760462038 https://chaos.social/@gigabecquerel/109818433760462038 There are other stations on the U-Bahn with uranium tiles too, you can find them with the crowdsourced Safecast radiation map: https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9 https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9

dewey 4y ago
Thanks! I parsed that toot wrongly, should've submitted the other URL. Maybe dang can update it. (Wish we had quote-posts on Mastodon, would make it more obvious)
- jordigh 4y ago
  I don't like the idea of Twitter-like quoting. Linking to the original toot is fine, it's clear that there's a link. The Twitter-like quoting was used way too much for abuse. It had legitimate uses, but the abuse it generates does not warrant the legitimate uses. Plus, it always made things so weird to read. 2. The reply 1. The original 3. The replies to the reply You say you find linking confusing right now, but it's just a matter of getting used again to the idea that links exist and can be followed, without always having a link preview. I find Twitter-quoting confusing because it messes up the order of the conversation.
  - dewey 4y ago
    Don’t want to start a side discussion here, but what I like about quote tweets is that I can see the quoted content without having to click out to another tab and go back and forth. Could probably handled with some auto-expanding by clients though.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    Can we just call them "posts" instead of "toot"?
    - jordigh 4y ago
      No! :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34696041 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34696041
    - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
      You can! I love calling them toots but it’s perfectly fine to call them posts. For anyone unfamiliar, “toot” is the sound an elephant makes and a mastodon is a prehistoric elephant. Just like a bird tweets, a mastodon toots.
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    This has been discussed to death on mastodon already. However recently the mastodon devs added this feature to their short list of what they are working on. (I think they said they are “exploring” it.) Quote toots offer a functionality not offered by other functions, which is the ability to show two toots at once as well as notify the original toot owner of this activity. Linking another toot has a pretty horrible UX in comparison. Last time I clicked on a linked toot, it opened a new tab to view it, and then in order to click like on that toot I was instructed by the UI to copy the toot address to yet another mastodon window in to the search bar. An absolute mess. Quote toots allow side discussions while allowing everyone to see what is being discussed. And they’re great when someone has a long thread and you want to pull out one piece to share with your followers and add context like “this piece of the puzzle is particularly important.” The fact that it changes the order of the conversation is the point. Conversations fork in ways not always conducive to a reply-only view. I primarily want quote toots so I can quote myself to start fresh threads that build on old ones. I did this all the time on Twitter where I posted a thread of updates for every evening that I worked on a project, with a new thread quoting the last one for each new evening. Since replies and links don’t show the other posts, it’s not as clear what I’m talking about when I link to an old toot and say “I made progress on this project tonight” given the awful UX on link toots.
    - jordigh 4y ago
      The recent wave of Twitter immigration has reignited the quote-toot discussion. People mostly want a silly copy of a half-baked Twitter feature. If we get something like it in Mastodon, I hope it's better thought-out. For example, editing toots was done in an entirely sane way: it's just plain possible to edit toots, and if someone edits a toot you boosted, you get notified, so people can't fool you initially and then insert a completely different idea in your timeline.
4gotunameagain 4y ago
Any idea why is Kaskelstraße so high ? Could it be the cobblestone ?
secondcoming 4y ago
First I've heard of a 'toot'! It's pretty funny due to it's usage in UK slang. It can mean everything from smoking a cigarette, to snorting cocaine, to oral sex.
- gnfargbl 4y ago
  That's true, but those uses of the word are pretty obscure. I would say the most common meaning of "toot" in the UK is the noise a horn makes, especially a bicycle/car/train horn. It's much more of a friendly word for toddlers than it is a slang word for debauchery. (Example: "Toot! Toot! Packed full of fun and games, it's the Thomas & Friends Annual 2022!", https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thomas-Friends-Annual-Packed-games/dp/0755501004 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thomas-Friends-Annual-Packed-games/...)
- jwx48 4y ago
  In my particular American-English dialect, it means flatulence.
  - cratermoon 4y ago
    Thus the school-boy doggerel, "Beans, beans, the wonderful fruit..."
    - jwineinger 4y ago
      I learned it as "the musical fruit" or "good for the heart"
- dewey 4y ago
  https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/16080 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/16080 They officially switched from "toot" to "post" a few months ago.
  - omoikane 4y ago
    Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26882318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26882318
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sbst32 4y ago
Can you tell me how to find other stations with the Safecast map? Rosenthaler Platz station is just blue all-around on that map - maybe I'm doing something wrong?
dewey 4y ago
Looking at this Safecast map, do you know how these values are collected? From the path it looks like it's some kind of mobile collection where user submit data? Are there people walking around with Geiger counters every day?
- cptcobalt 4y ago
  Safecast is the most interesting part of this.
Krasnol 4y ago
> you can find them with the crowdsourced Safecast radiation map: https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9 https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9 Oooh that's nice. I wish they'd have those kits in sale again. Would buy one instantly but no time for fiddling myself this year unfortunately...

by jonty 4y ago

dewey 4y ago

Thanks! I parsed that toot wrongly, should've submitted the other URL. Maybe dang can update it. (Wish we had quote-posts on Mastodon, would make it more obvious)

jordigh 4y ago
I don't like the idea of Twitter-like quoting. Linking to the original toot is fine, it's clear that there's a link. The Twitter-like quoting was used way too much for abuse. It had legitimate uses, but the abuse it generates does not warrant the legitimate uses. Plus, it always made things so weird to read. 2. The reply 1. The original 3. The replies to the reply You say you find linking confusing right now, but it's just a matter of getting used again to the idea that links exist and can be followed, without always having a link preview. I find Twitter-quoting confusing because it messes up the order of the conversation.
- dewey 4y ago
  Don’t want to start a side discussion here, but what I like about quote tweets is that I can see the quoted content without having to click out to another tab and go back and forth. Could probably handled with some auto-expanding by clients though.
- mlindner 4y ago
  Can we just call them "posts" instead of "toot"?
  - jordigh 4y ago
    No! :) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34696041 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34696041
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    You can! I love calling them toots but it’s perfectly fine to call them posts. For anyone unfamiliar, “toot” is the sound an elephant makes and a mastodon is a prehistoric elephant. Just like a bird tweets, a mastodon toots.
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  This has been discussed to death on mastodon already. However recently the mastodon devs added this feature to their short list of what they are working on. (I think they said they are “exploring” it.) Quote toots offer a functionality not offered by other functions, which is the ability to show two toots at once as well as notify the original toot owner of this activity. Linking another toot has a pretty horrible UX in comparison. Last time I clicked on a linked toot, it opened a new tab to view it, and then in order to click like on that toot I was instructed by the UI to copy the toot address to yet another mastodon window in to the search bar. An absolute mess. Quote toots allow side discussions while allowing everyone to see what is being discussed. And they’re great when someone has a long thread and you want to pull out one piece to share with your followers and add context like “this piece of the puzzle is particularly important.” The fact that it changes the order of the conversation is the point. Conversations fork in ways not always conducive to a reply-only view. I primarily want quote toots so I can quote myself to start fresh threads that build on old ones. I did this all the time on Twitter where I posted a thread of updates for every evening that I worked on a project, with a new thread quoting the last one for each new evening. Since replies and links don’t show the other posts, it’s not as clear what I’m talking about when I link to an old toot and say “I made progress on this project tonight” given the awful UX on link toots.
  - jordigh 4y ago
    The recent wave of Twitter immigration has reignited the quote-toot discussion. People mostly want a silly copy of a half-baked Twitter feature. If we get something like it in Mastodon, I hope it's better thought-out. For example, editing toots was done in an entirely sane way: it's just plain possible to edit toots, and if someone edits a toot you boosted, you get notified, so people can't fool you initially and then insert a completely different idea in your timeline.

4gotunameagain 4y ago

Any idea why is Kaskelstraße so high ? Could it be the cobblestone ?

secondcoming 4y ago

First I've heard of a 'toot'! It's pretty funny due to it's usage in UK slang. It can mean everything from smoking a cigarette, to snorting cocaine, to oral sex.

gnfargbl 4y ago
That's true, but those uses of the word are pretty obscure. I would say the most common meaning of "toot" in the UK is the noise a horn makes, especially a bicycle/car/train horn. It's much more of a friendly word for toddlers than it is a slang word for debauchery. (Example: "Toot! Toot! Packed full of fun and games, it's the Thomas & Friends Annual 2022!", https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thomas-Friends-Annual-Packed-games/dp/0755501004 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thomas-Friends-Annual-Packed-games/...)
jwx48 4y ago
In my particular American-English dialect, it means flatulence.
- cratermoon 4y ago
  Thus the school-boy doggerel, "Beans, beans, the wonderful fruit..."
  - jwineinger 4y ago
    I learned it as "the musical fruit" or "good for the heart"
dewey 4y ago
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/16080 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/16080 They officially switched from "toot" to "post" a few months ago.
- omoikane 4y ago
  Mastodon Renaming “Toots” to “Posts” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26882318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26882318

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sbst32 4y ago

Can you tell me how to find other stations with the Safecast map? Rosenthaler Platz station is just blue all-around on that map - maybe I'm doing something wrong?

dewey 4y ago

Looking at this Safecast map, do you know how these values are collected? From the path it looks like it's some kind of mobile collection where user submit data? Are there people walking around with Geiger counters every day?

cptcobalt 4y ago
Safecast is the most interesting part of this.

Krasnol 4y ago

> you can find them with the crowdsourced Safecast radiation map: https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9 https://map.safecast.org/?y=52.5002&x=13.4852&z=13&l=0&m=9 Oooh that's nice. I wish they'd have those kits in sale again. Would buy one instantly but no time for fiddling myself this year unfortunately...