> Discipline is doing things even if you think you don't have enough energy or motivation at the moment. Motivaion is anything that makes people do stuff. Gun

> Discipline is doing things even if you think you don't have enough energy or motivation at the moment. Motivaion is anything that makes people do stuff. Gun at your head is also motivation - you'll be willing to do things even if you don't have energy or desire to do this. It's just external motivation and external regulation - it can be very powerful, but short-term (it'll stop working as soon as punishment or reward is removed). So the theory I mentioned (Self-Determination Theory) is the central theory in psychology that studies motivation. It originated in clinical psychology, very mature (70+ years) and has shown high predictive power in thousands of studies. If you think about it, motivation (="energy that makes people do things") is what underpins everything - from parenting and relationships to education, sports and politics. So why not study it as deep as we can? What you refer to "don't have motivation" would be better expressed as "don't have intrinsic motivation", which is just one of the types of motivation. So, sure, if you only consider "intrinsic motivation" as being worthy called "motivation", then discipline vs motivation makes sense. But if you consider full spectrum of external motivations (integrated, identified, introjected and external), than it's very clear that discipline is just one of the forms of identified or introjected) external motivations. External motivations can be very powerful, but the further they're on the spectrum the more short lived they are. As for the actionable items - again. SDT gives you tools and frameworks how to apply this on the per-case basis. Have you heard the phrase "you should read what you love to start love reading"? That's one of the things that makes perfect sense from the SDT perspective - instead of focusing on "discipline for the sake of discipline", i.e. forcing yourself to stick with this external type of motivation, you could use this as a tool to move your motivations (there could be few at the same time) into the side of intrinsic motivation as much as possible, if you want this behaviour to stick. SDT is actually quite approachable and actionable itself. I think gamedev is quite familiar with it, and they use the tools to make computer games intrinsically motivated.