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Because NextDNS is a for-profit company they probably can't get funding from the EU for these silly EU vanity projects so easily.

daneel_w 4y ago
How is this a "silly EU vanity project"?
- __alexs 4y ago
  There is an EU fund for silly projects like Gaia-X which are mostly about vanity rather than actually producing anything useful. I am suggesting they've formed a non-profit to try and benefit from this fund.
  - daneel_w 4y ago
    Yeah I don't see what's silly about providing a resolver with the features being offered, no matter the "EU" branding or official project funding. Right off the bat I'm willing to bet these guys are more genuine and honest about privacy/integrity than e.g. Google.
    - __alexs 4y ago
      There is nothing silly about the product specifically. It's useful. However they already built it: https://nextdns.io/ https://nextdns.io/ What I am calling silly is not dns0. It's the way the EU is funding technology projects.
      - daneel_w 4y ago
        > It's the way the EU is funding technology projects. I personally think that's a good thing, to provide funding and opportunity for gratis service projects with less risk of deviating in the way things often do in commercial context where revenue is the top priority.
  - mhitza 4y ago
    Gaia-X isn't EU funded, it was just endorsed by EU parliament members. It's actually funded by different entities in the manufacturing industries (like car manufacturers). EU funded projects have distinctive markers on their pages.
    - __alexs 4y ago
      It is funded by France and Germany e.g. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/EN/2022/20220228_GAIAX.html https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung...
toyg 4y ago
DNS is not a "vanity project", it's a massive issue in terms of internet governance. We've known this since the '90s, which is why the EU is starting its own service (that is not this one). I doubt this project got any EU funding, or is likely to ever get any EU money at all; in fact, it looks like a last-gasp attempt from a private DNS company to remain relevant.
- __alexs 4y ago
  DNS4EU is yet another EU vanity / pork barrel project. DNS resolvers are commercial failures as you point out and DNS4EU is going to do nothing to change that.

daneel_w 4y ago

How is this a "silly EU vanity project"?

__alexs 4y ago
There is an EU fund for silly projects like Gaia-X which are mostly about vanity rather than actually producing anything useful. I am suggesting they've formed a non-profit to try and benefit from this fund.
- daneel_w 4y ago
  Yeah I don't see what's silly about providing a resolver with the features being offered, no matter the "EU" branding or official project funding. Right off the bat I'm willing to bet these guys are more genuine and honest about privacy/integrity than e.g. Google.
  - __alexs 4y ago
    There is nothing silly about the product specifically. It's useful. However they already built it: https://nextdns.io/ https://nextdns.io/ What I am calling silly is not dns0. It's the way the EU is funding technology projects.
    - daneel_w 4y ago
      > It's the way the EU is funding technology projects. I personally think that's a good thing, to provide funding and opportunity for gratis service projects with less risk of deviating in the way things often do in commercial context where revenue is the top priority.
- mhitza 4y ago
  Gaia-X isn't EU funded, it was just endorsed by EU parliament members. It's actually funded by different entities in the manufacturing industries (like car manufacturers). EU funded projects have distinctive markers on their pages.
  - __alexs 4y ago
    It is funded by France and Germany e.g. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/EN/2022/20220228_GAIAX.html https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung...

toyg 4y ago

DNS is not a "vanity project", it's a massive issue in terms of internet governance. We've known this since the '90s, which is why the EU is starting its own service (that is not this one). I doubt this project got any EU funding, or is likely to ever get any EU money at all; in fact, it looks like a last-gasp attempt from a private DNS company to remain relevant.

__alexs 4y ago
DNS4EU is yet another EU vanity / pork barrel project. DNS resolvers are commercial failures as you point out and DNS4EU is going to do nothing to change that.