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> here is a quite bit of difference No, same mechanism. Yes, different contexts lead to different outcomes, why would that even need to be mentioned? Did you r

> here is a quite bit of difference No, same mechanism. Yes, different contexts lead to different outcomes, why would that even need to be mentioned? Did you read what I wrote? Sometimes I hate Internet discussions. Instead of working with one another, the goal seems to be trying to find an interpretation that make sit possible to attack a post/position. If only I can find one flaw in your argument - by using my own most uncharitable interpretation that you forgot to explicitly prevent with several pages of small print - I'm contributing! How do the different outcomes due to different contexts, which obviously will turn out very different in almost every single different context, make my statement less valid?

bryanrasmussen 4y ago
perhaps you're going through something at the moment? I just found the example of Pisarro somewhat amusing. But that said I do think they actually are a bit different, lots of people won't kill someone even if they will pick up a wallet on the street and take the money instead of giving it back to the people. Your example implies people who will do one bad thing for monetary incentives will do the worst thing. Which is why I found it funny and pointed it out, not to imply that people don't do bad things for monetary incentives, just genocide probably needs a little extra push than that.
cmeacham98 4y ago
> How do the different outcomes due to different contexts, which obviously will turn out very different in almost every single different context, make my statement less valid? Because your statement is black and white. By your logic, if we don't provide literally 100% of everything needed to survive without requiring anything back at all for every person the system is evil. Real life is shades of grey. Society requires some incentive for people in it to work in order to function. Of course, we can argue about the specifics, but you'll quickly release that if we provide everything for everybody that there is nobody left to do the providing (at least with today's technology).

bryanrasmussen 4y ago

perhaps you're going through something at the moment? I just found the example of Pisarro somewhat amusing. But that said I do think they actually are a bit different, lots of people won't kill someone even if they will pick up a wallet on the street and take the money instead of giving it back to the people. Your example implies people who will do one bad thing for monetary incentives will do the worst thing. Which is why I found it funny and pointed it out, not to imply that people don't do bad things for monetary incentives, just genocide probably needs a little extra push than that.

cmeacham98 4y ago

> How do the different outcomes due to different contexts, which obviously will turn out very different in almost every single different context, make my statement less valid? Because your statement is black and white. By your logic, if we don't provide literally 100% of everything needed to survive without requiring anything back at all for every person the system is evil. Real life is shades of grey. Society requires some incentive for people in it to work in order to function. Of course, we can argue about the specifics, but you'll quickly release that if we provide everything for everybody that there is nobody left to do the providing (at least with today's technology).