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As bad is this is (and it's really bad) I do feel(hope) there will eventually arise a market and providers of "free-and-fair" devices. Example: -The Framework

As bad is this is (and it's really bad) I do feel(hope) there will eventually arise a market and providers of "free-and-fair" devices. Example: -The Framework Laptop (Came at the height of the right-to-repair crap) -Linux (Remember them unix wars and specialised-expensive hardware) It will just be another "segment" to compete in, ie being more free-and-open than your competitors ? EDIT: Formatting

Talinx 4y ago
https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1617566347877298177 https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/161756634787729817... Currently have a ten year old HP printer, constantly causes problems. If Framework actually makes a printer I'll buy it instantly.
- rawoke083600 4y ago
  Damnn can you imagine that ? a Solid made-to-refill and use printer ! I'd buy something like that yesterday already !
LoganDark 4y ago
There's currently a glaring lack of high-performance repairable devices. Sure, the Framework laptop is a fun experiment, but it's tiny and has no GPU, so it's useless for our line of work/hobbies. I'd imagine many others feel the same. I wish people would throw out "thin and light" and make something practical. Nobody does it right. There are heavy laptops out there but they always sacrifice things like the display for that purpose. Maybe one day we'll try to build our own laptop, but that requires such an astronomical level of expertise and commitment and money that we probably won't ever get to. -Emily
- rawoke083600 4y ago
  >Sure, the Framework laptop is a fun experiment, Yes/No :) YMMV, but I do rate the framework a tad higher than just an experiment. This is technically the 'first-of-a-new-kind' of a product and or laptop. Give it a few more generation. The FW-Laptop might not have been the best example but my point is as much as these "evil-companies" do "evil-things" (like H.P now) there will arise a natural counter-market force an products (opportunities) to be "less-evil"
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    > Give it a few more generation We contacted Framework directly and asked if they planned to build any larger or more powerful laptops. They said no. The most they can do at this point is try to set a precedent. -Emily

Talinx 4y ago

https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/1617566347877298177 https://twitter.com/FrameworkPuter/status/161756634787729817... Currently have a ten year old HP printer, constantly causes problems. If Framework actually makes a printer I'll buy it instantly.

rawoke083600 4y ago
Damnn can you imagine that ? a Solid made-to-refill and use printer ! I'd buy something like that yesterday already !

LoganDark 4y ago

There's currently a glaring lack of high-performance repairable devices. Sure, the Framework laptop is a fun experiment, but it's tiny and has no GPU, so it's useless for our line of work/hobbies. I'd imagine many others feel the same. I wish people would throw out "thin and light" and make something practical. Nobody does it right. There are heavy laptops out there but they always sacrifice things like the display for that purpose. Maybe one day we'll try to build our own laptop, but that requires such an astronomical level of expertise and commitment and money that we probably won't ever get to. -Emily

rawoke083600 4y ago
>Sure, the Framework laptop is a fun experiment, Yes/No :) YMMV, but I do rate the framework a tad higher than just an experiment. This is technically the 'first-of-a-new-kind' of a product and or laptop. Give it a few more generation. The FW-Laptop might not have been the best example but my point is as much as these "evil-companies" do "evil-things" (like H.P now) there will arise a natural counter-market force an products (opportunities) to be "less-evil"
- LoganDark 4y ago
  > Give it a few more generation We contacted Framework directly and asked if they planned to build any larger or more powerful laptops. They said no. The most they can do at this point is try to set a precedent. -Emily