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Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team

128 points by kitebive 4y ago

pastage 4y ago
There seems to be some tasks up regarding the earthquake https://www.hotosm.org/disaster-services/turkiye-earthquakes-february-2023-activation/ https://www.hotosm.org/disaster-services/turkiye-earthquakes...
thriftwy 4y ago
OpenStreetMap already often has awesome coverage of remote places in Africa where I would expect Google Maps to be spotty.
- nicbou 4y ago
  It has markedly better coverage in Nepal, Morocco, Central Asia, and quite frankly anywhere I have checked. It has been very useful when I travelled by motorcycle, and I've contributed a few hundred hotels and petrol stations in those places to return the favour.
- lkbm 4y ago
  I noticed yesterday that it's missing all the houses in my neighborhood (South Bend IN). A few blocks over it's complete, but I have some work to do on my block. It's not new construction. This house is close to 100 years old. It's just never been mapped by the hard-working volunteers of OSM.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    You too are one of those hard working volunteers. Thank you for your contributions to the dataset and platform.
JEDI-HACKER 4y ago
Wow, what a great project. Back to basics how map's use to be made. I wish them, the greatest of success.
- ygra 4y ago
  Well, the Haiti earthquake in 2010 marked the start of what HOTOSM do and since then they seem to steadily improve maps where disasters are likely to strike or where needed for current humanitarian efforts (e.g. there was a project on improving road coverage prior to distribution of COVID-19 vaccines in South Sudan a year ago or so). So I'd argue success is already there, just rather invisible for many people not directly involved.
pmayrgundter 4y ago
I was looking to start an instance of Person Finder. It's been customized to Turkish before as well. Any python hackers out there? It's a little crufty https://github.com/google/personfinder/issues/814 https://github.com/google/personfinder/issues/814
- randomluck040 4y ago
  Im not a Python pro by any means but I’ll look into it tonight.
  - pmayrgundter 4y ago
    Thanks!
nix23 4y ago
Ohoh! OpenStreetMap is in danger...again and again...
- mtmail 4y ago
  Is this regarding "OpenStreetMap is in trouble – a critical take on Bing Map Builder" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34680958 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34680958) discussion yesterday? Microsoft is known to water down open source, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... was a phrase by the U.S. Department of Justice. Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team is more like a sister project to OpenStreetMap. Very open, shared technology, many volunteers work on both, same conferences. The focus is different, some of the funding comes from different sources.
- Doctor_Fegg 4y ago
  Heaven knows what'll happen if we ever start succeeding!
college_physics 4y ago
Do you guys have a dedicated project for the Turkey/Syria earthquake disaster? People are eager to help/donate and what better way than help build along this infrastructure
- mtmail 4y ago
  Help mapping (all in a browser) https://tasks.hotosm.org/explore?campaign=T%C3%BCrkiye%20Earthquakes%20February%202023 https://tasks.hotosm.org/explore?campaign=T%C3%BCrkiye%20Ear... The tech for the task manager is at https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues
catskul2 4y ago
I don't quite understand what this project does, for example, in the case of the earthquake in Turkey. Does it designate fallen buildings, and unusable roads? If so how does one access this info. I spent about 10 minutes on hotosm and osm trying to find & interpret Turkey related data and did not succeed. Found the Turkey tasks, but couldn't make heads or tails of what those tasks were, how to view the output of people doing those tasks, or how to contribute.
- sometinsome 4y ago
  HOT's Tasking Manager is a platform for coordinating the work of mappers. Only authorized organizations can create projects, but anybody can contribute. In this case, Yer Cizenler (yercizenler.org) is coordinating with representatives of local organizations and consultants from IFRC (The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies) for the collection of road and building datasets. The goal of this tasks is to complete missing data on the map, for example adding building and roads like in this case. Data is then available on OpenStreetMap for different uses. Some examples are: * View the map on openstreetmap.org * View the map on OsmAnd or other similar software * Download spatial data using Overpass or HOT's Export Tool (https://export.hotosm.org https://export.hotosm.org) * etc, etc The output of people doing those tasks can be seen querying the changes on the map. There's a tool that is currently unmaintained but you can use it to get some additional stats about the contributions: https://galaxy.hotosm.org/mapathon-report/summary https://galaxy.hotosm.org/mapathon-report/summary If you put a date range like "6 February, 2023 12:00 AM" to "6 February, 2023 11:45 PM" and a Tasking Manager project's id (example: 14218) you'll see something like: Total Unique Contributors: 507 Features Created: - building: 48962 - source: 34317 - highway: 7770 - highway_km: 924 - surface: 508 - name: 474
  - catskul2 4y ago
    Would the state of those buildings or roads be expected to be there? Or is this simply completing the data so people can more easily refer to it in OSM if they want to?
    - 4y ago

128 points by kitebive 4y ago

There seems to be some tasks up regarding the earthquake https://www.hotosm.org/disaster-services/turkiye-earthquakes-february-2023-activation/ https://www.hotosm.org/disaster-services/turkiye-earthquakes...

thriftwy 4y ago

OpenStreetMap already often has awesome coverage of remote places in Africa where I would expect Google Maps to be spotty.

nicbou 4y ago
It has markedly better coverage in Nepal, Morocco, Central Asia, and quite frankly anywhere I have checked. It has been very useful when I travelled by motorcycle, and I've contributed a few hundred hotels and petrol stations in those places to return the favour.
lkbm 4y ago
I noticed yesterday that it's missing all the houses in my neighborhood (South Bend IN). A few blocks over it's complete, but I have some work to do on my block. It's not new construction. This house is close to 100 years old. It's just never been mapped by the hard-working volunteers of OSM.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  You too are one of those hard working volunteers. Thank you for your contributions to the dataset and platform.

JEDI-HACKER 4y ago

Wow, what a great project. Back to basics how map's use to be made. I wish them, the greatest of success.

ygra 4y ago
Well, the Haiti earthquake in 2010 marked the start of what HOTOSM do and since then they seem to steadily improve maps where disasters are likely to strike or where needed for current humanitarian efforts (e.g. there was a project on improving road coverage prior to distribution of COVID-19 vaccines in South Sudan a year ago or so). So I'd argue success is already there, just rather invisible for many people not directly involved.

pmayrgundter 4y ago

I was looking to start an instance of Person Finder. It's been customized to Turkish before as well. Any python hackers out there? It's a little crufty https://github.com/google/personfinder/issues/814 https://github.com/google/personfinder/issues/814

randomluck040 4y ago
Im not a Python pro by any means but I’ll look into it tonight.
- pmayrgundter 4y ago
  Thanks!

nix23 4y ago

Ohoh! OpenStreetMap is in danger...again and again...

mtmail 4y ago
Is this regarding "OpenStreetMap is in trouble – a critical take on Bing Map Builder" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34680958 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34680958) discussion yesterday? Microsoft is known to water down open source, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis... was a phrase by the U.S. Department of Justice. Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team is more like a sister project to OpenStreetMap. Very open, shared technology, many volunteers work on both, same conferences. The focus is different, some of the funding comes from different sources.
Doctor_Fegg 4y ago
Heaven knows what'll happen if we ever start succeeding!

college_physics 4y ago

Do you guys have a dedicated project for the Turkey/Syria earthquake disaster? People are eager to help/donate and what better way than help build along this infrastructure

mtmail 4y ago
Help mapping (all in a browser) https://tasks.hotosm.org/explore?campaign=T%C3%BCrkiye%20Earthquakes%20February%202023 https://tasks.hotosm.org/explore?campaign=T%C3%BCrkiye%20Ear... The tech for the task manager is at https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues https://github.com/hotosm/tasking-manager/issues

catskul2 4y ago

I don't quite understand what this project does, for example, in the case of the earthquake in Turkey. Does it designate fallen buildings, and unusable roads? If so how does one access this info. I spent about 10 minutes on hotosm and osm trying to find & interpret Turkey related data and did not succeed. Found the Turkey tasks, but couldn't make heads or tails of what those tasks were, how to view the output of people doing those tasks, or how to contribute.

sometinsome 4y ago
HOT's Tasking Manager is a platform for coordinating the work of mappers. Only authorized organizations can create projects, but anybody can contribute. In this case, Yer Cizenler (yercizenler.org) is coordinating with representatives of local organizations and consultants from IFRC (The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies) for the collection of road and building datasets. The goal of this tasks is to complete missing data on the map, for example adding building and roads like in this case. Data is then available on OpenStreetMap for different uses. Some examples are: * View the map on openstreetmap.org * View the map on OsmAnd or other similar software * Download spatial data using Overpass or HOT's Export Tool (https://export.hotosm.org https://export.hotosm.org) * etc, etc The output of people doing those tasks can be seen querying the changes on the map. There's a tool that is currently unmaintained but you can use it to get some additional stats about the contributions: https://galaxy.hotosm.org/mapathon-report/summary https://galaxy.hotosm.org/mapathon-report/summary If you put a date range like "6 February, 2023 12:00 AM" to "6 February, 2023 11:45 PM" and a Tasking Manager project's id (example: 14218) you'll see something like: Total Unique Contributors: 507 Features Created: - building: 48962 - source: 34317 - highway: 7770 - highway_km: 924 - surface: 508 - name: 474
- catskul2 4y ago
  Would the state of those buildings or roads be expected to be there? Or is this simply completing the data so people can more easily refer to it in OSM if they want to?
  - 4y ago