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That's because that number alone is meaningless. Children are placed outside of their family whenever their custodians harm their well-being (with a judge's war
by Freak_NL 4y ago
That's because that number alone is meaningless. Children are placed outside of their family whenever their custodians harm their well-being (with a judge's warrant). This is desirable on the whole.
Of those 1100, a certain percentage would have been placed outside of the custody of their parents with or without this scandal, for just reasons. That's the key here.
There will have been a number of cases where the child's environment would not have changed for the worse, had this affair not happened. Financial troubles tend to exacerbate existing issues. Several of these cases have been reported on in-depth in various (reliable) Dutch media, despite what some people might decry. Those cases are inexcusable, but they do not, according to what is known now at least, form the majority of these 1100 cases, or even a significant part.
Anyone who speaks of '1100 kidnappings' is either naive or pushing some other narrative.
- nibbleshifter 4y agoThe "bar" for social services to remove a child is extremely low - by design. There's zero repercussions or compensation if the state wrongly removes your child. There's a massive shitshow if they fail to remove your child and "something happens". So the system tends to trend on the side of taking children into care (traumatic for everyone involved) prematurely.
- Freak_NL 4y agoThat risk exists, but that's not limited to this specific affair.
- nibbleshifter 4y agoIts highly relevant to this affair though. When you are charged or accused for a crime (say, welfare fraud), social services pretty much always automatically step in if there are children in the household. Then the "remove child" decision tree really gets going - with social services assuming guilt due to it being their safest option.
- Freak_NL 4y ago> When you are charged or accused for a crime (say, welfare fraud), social services pretty much always automatically step in if there are children in the household. Excepting incidents, the current state is that there is no direct link between this affair and an increase in children being placed outside of their family¹. That doesn't mean that this affair didn't contribute to some of those cases, but it certainly didn't mean 1100 children were 'kidnapped'. 1: https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2022/48/actualisatie-uithuisplaatsingen-toeslagenaffaire-2015-t-m-juni-2022 https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/maatwerk/2022/48/actualisatie-uithu...
- yucky 4y ago> There's zero repercussions or compensation if the state wrongly removes your child. This is horrible and there should be more uproar about it. The lifelong trauma associated with that for the child (and the parents) is immeasurable.