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I think it comes in a situation that isn't great, but not so bad that it warranted drastic decisions: people are organically generating mountains of BS online e

I think it comes in a situation that isn't great, but not so bad that it warranted drastic decisions: people are organically generating mountains of BS online everyday, including on blogs, official looking news sites etc. It's a pain, but as most of that is also generated by humans there's an opt out, saying "good guys" should band together to fight it and it would be fine. Now that we have ChatGPT and the like, manually dealing with all the BS is just out of the window. And I'm kinda hoping we try to deal with it in a systematic matter, and find a way to flag and bury the BS down to levels lower than when ChatGPT came to the public. Basically, I'm hoping the thing that happened for spam happens for bullshit as well, and we get optimized tools to fight to manageable levels (with the arms race adn all, probably)

hypothesis 4y ago
> Basically, I'm hoping the thing that happened for spam happens for bullshit as well, and we get optimized tools to fight to manageable levels Who is going to do that? I’m genuinely asking, because I’m old enough to remember that BigCo was totally fine to “enshitificate” their search for years and still barely anyone got close to them…
- makeitdouble 4y ago
  I really don’t know, but I also don’t see it coming from any of the behemoths we have now. The wildest scenario would for it to come from Mozilla or another web player like Cloudflare. More realistically it could come from players outside of the US seeing it as an opportunity to make a dent in the current quasi-monopolies, with some government backing as it would probably cost amounts no investor would pay otherwise.
kristianc 4y ago
> I think it comes in a situation that isn't great, but not so bad that it warranted drastic decisions: people are organically generating mountains of BS online everyday, including on blogs, official looking news sites etc. Indeed, ChatGPT produces bullshit because that’s the bullshit it’s been trained on.
- fche 4y ago
  chatgpt also produces bullshit because openai has explicitly and deliberately lobotomized it against politically incorrect output

hypothesis 4y ago

> Basically, I'm hoping the thing that happened for spam happens for bullshit as well, and we get optimized tools to fight to manageable levels Who is going to do that? I’m genuinely asking, because I’m old enough to remember that BigCo was totally fine to “enshitificate” their search for years and still barely anyone got close to them…

makeitdouble 4y ago
I really don’t know, but I also don’t see it coming from any of the behemoths we have now. The wildest scenario would for it to come from Mozilla or another web player like Cloudflare. More realistically it could come from players outside of the US seeing it as an opportunity to make a dent in the current quasi-monopolies, with some government backing as it would probably cost amounts no investor would pay otherwise.

kristianc 4y ago

> I think it comes in a situation that isn't great, but not so bad that it warranted drastic decisions: people are organically generating mountains of BS online everyday, including on blogs, official looking news sites etc. Indeed, ChatGPT produces bullshit because that’s the bullshit it’s been trained on.

fche 4y ago
chatgpt also produces bullshit because openai has explicitly and deliberately lobotomized it against politically incorrect output