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Ok? And if pigs had wings they'd be pigeons. If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. I agree you can imagine an alien that continues to neatly fit in

Ok? And if pigs had wings they'd be pigeons. If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle. I agree you can imagine an alien that continues to neatly fit inside the evidentiary gaps despite the rapid pace which those gaps have evolved over the last couple hundred years. I can do that too. My imaginary aliens are just jerks who like taunting us. They always had the capacity to be unobserved, but have consistently maintained a level of liminal, unconfirmable hints because they are here to fuck with us. Please look for my book, "4chan of the Skies" which will come out in April 2024. But I don't anybody should take either kind of aliens-of-the-gaps seriously, because I think the much simpler explanation is that it's the same kind of fill-the-gaps-with-boogeymen that humans have been doing since Zeus was dreamed up to explain thunder.

ostenning 4y ago
I think you are really missing the point here. I'm not debating with you if aliens exist or not, my original comment was simply a thought experiment about what state of technology aliens would have access to in the hypothetical scenario that they were here, an assumption, and this is based on the idea that they likely have technology that is superior to ours, because they likely traversed millions of light years to get here. Is it really that hard?
- wpietri 4y ago
  No, I think you're missing the point here. Because one, that's an unevidenced hypothetical that is basically a fantasy. I am not obliged to give it any weight. And two, if I did, it does not explain why UFOs have remained always liminal despite our rapidly advancing technology to track and record things. If shy aliens were vastly superior, we'd never detect them at all. If they were at some lower but constant level of technology, we'd detect them more over time. But for some mysterious reason, they were just as detectable in 1953 as they are in 2023. Your "aliens r smart" theory does not explain that at all, and so it's not helpful. And it's especially not helpful as a reply to my original point, which you do not yet seem to have taken on board.

ostenning 4y ago

I think you are really missing the point here. I'm not debating with you if aliens exist or not, my original comment was simply a thought experiment about what state of technology aliens would have access to in the hypothetical scenario that they were here, an assumption, and this is based on the idea that they likely have technology that is superior to ours, because they likely traversed millions of light years to get here. Is it really that hard?

wpietri 4y ago
No, I think you're missing the point here. Because one, that's an unevidenced hypothetical that is basically a fantasy. I am not obliged to give it any weight. And two, if I did, it does not explain why UFOs have remained always liminal despite our rapidly advancing technology to track and record things. If shy aliens were vastly superior, we'd never detect them at all. If they were at some lower but constant level of technology, we'd detect them more over time. But for some mysterious reason, they were just as detectable in 1953 as they are in 2023. Your "aliens r smart" theory does not explain that at all, and so it's not helpful. And it's especially not helpful as a reply to my original point, which you do not yet seem to have taken on board.