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I feel like your comparisons to slavery are an appeal to emotion rather than a rational argument. Can you either expand further on your argument (rather than ju

I feel like your comparisons to slavery are an appeal to emotion rather than a rational argument. Can you either expand further on your argument (rather than just stating it as fact) or link to somewhere where you (or someone who represents that point of view well) discusses it further? I don't buy the "exert control over another person in their home" argument. I'm not sure why laws about information rise to the level of "slavery" in your view. I think even calling digital items simply "information" is a bit of a (likely intentional) misclassification. I think there are a ton of problems with the way we handle digital materials from a legal standpoint, and I do think vast swaths should be more freely available, and that the length of copyright and other laws are way too long. So I'm sympathetic, to a point. But the argument you make in the above post isn't really convincing, even to me (someone who likely leans closer to your PoV than many here).

breck 4y ago
> I feel like your comparisons to slavery are an appeal to emotion rather than a rational argument. Yes, it is an appeal to emotion but it's also rooted in logic. The "intellectual property" lie is also an appeal to emotion (attempting to falsely piggy back on anti-communist sentiment, even though (c)opywrongs and patents are actually anti-property rights) but not rooted in logic. > Can you either expand further on your argument If you program a multi-agent simulation of the world and define slaves and masters you'd have: class Person class Slave extends Person askOnDate(recipient) if (this.master.grantsPermission()) super.askOnDate(recipient) sendFile(recipient, file) if (file.master.grantsPermission()) super.sendFile(recipient, file) class Master extends Person Someone who has to ask permission of a 3rd party not involved in a transaction is a partial slave.
- LocalPCGuy 4y ago
  > Someone who has to ask permission of a 3rd party not involved in a transaction is a partial slave. That is the framing I don't buy

breck 4y ago

> I feel like your comparisons to slavery are an appeal to emotion rather than a rational argument. Yes, it is an appeal to emotion but it's also rooted in logic. The "intellectual property" lie is also an appeal to emotion (attempting to falsely piggy back on anti-communist sentiment, even though (c)opywrongs and patents are actually anti-property rights) but not rooted in logic. > Can you either expand further on your argument If you program a multi-agent simulation of the world and define slaves and masters you'd have: class Person class Slave extends Person askOnDate(recipient) if (this.master.grantsPermission()) super.askOnDate(recipient) sendFile(recipient, file) if (file.master.grantsPermission()) super.sendFile(recipient, file) class Master extends Person Someone who has to ask permission of a 3rd party not involved in a transaction is a partial slave.

LocalPCGuy 4y ago
> Someone who has to ask permission of a 3rd party not involved in a transaction is a partial slave. That is the framing I don't buy